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If any of that were true why does Israel forbid foreign journalists from reporting facts on the ground? Why did they kill more journalists than all prior confli

If any of that were true why does Israel forbid foreign journalists from reporting facts on the ground? Why did they kill more journalists than all prior conflicts in human history?

haght 7mo ago
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- polotics 7mo ago
  Hamas as financed, and helped grow, and fostered as an entity, and rid of its more middle-of-the-road competitors, by two you-know-who parties in this farcical tragedy, parties that comically keep identifying themselves as one another's mortal enemy... glad I never set foot in that madhouse in 20 year and most likely won't ever again.
- austin-cheney 7mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_... https://www.ifj.org/war-in-gaza https://www.ifj.org/war-in-gaza
- benterix 7mo ago
  > ow, when ukraine shows that they are strong, people on the internet look horrified how russian soldiers are annihilated with fpv drones and scream about how such things are war crimes and should be stopped. Sorry who are those people and where I can find them? In my bubble Ukraine is still the victim who lost 20% of its land, and Russians are still bombing the country daily, both military and civilian targets. All male Ukrainians are basically prisoners in their own country who can only pray they don't die soon.
- AlotOfReading 7mo ago
  Israel prioritises its own people, so hamas should do the same... Last I checked, the Israeli government opposed a two-state solution. That means Palestinians are Israel's people.
dlubarov 7mo ago
It's more or less the same with any modern military. Ukraine for example doesn't allow journalists (foreign or not) in the more dangerous areas near front lines, with rare exceptions for journalists that they invite and escort. It's perfectly reasonable to not want unrestricted journalists leaking information about military assets, or possibly getting themselves killed. Most people seem to understand (or at least not care) when Ukraine imposes press restrictions. The question should be, why are people suddenly outraged when Israel does roughly the same thing?
- austin-cheney 7mo ago
  That is not the same. When the US invaded Iraq there were over 3000 journalists in Iraq. None of them were in firing zones to be used as human shields. That said, there are still journalists operating in Ukraine even today. How many journalists does Israel allow in Gaza, anywhere in Gaza? The answer is 0. Worse still is that they appear to directly target journalists for elimination, as became evident when they shot a rocket at a building stairwell that contained only journalists trying to transmit video and then shot a second rocket at the exact same location shortly after to kill any first responders. The entire event, both rocket attacks, was caught on video that made it out of the enclave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nasser_Hospital_strikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nasser_Hospital_strikes
  - dlubarov 7mo ago
    Iraq isn't the most useful comparison because it wasn't feasible for the US to fully control access; determined journalists could find ways into the warzone. They still tried to encourage embedded journalists, who they could protect and also censor, so that they weren't tweeting photos showing artillery locations or what not. There are journalists operating in Ukraine, but they're either - embedded/escorted (IDF did a bit of that also) - in safe ("green") areas far away from fighting (Gaza is too small to really have those; Ukraine is ~1650x larger) - or just ignoring the laws, and illegally reporting from dangerous yellow or red zones
    - throwworhtthrow 7mo ago

If any of that were true why does Israel forbid foreign journalists from reporting facts on the ground? Why did they kill more journalists than all prior conflicts in human history?

haght 7mo ago

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polotics 7mo ago
Hamas as financed, and helped grow, and fostered as an entity, and rid of its more middle-of-the-road competitors, by two you-know-who parties in this farcical tragedy, parties that comically keep identifying themselves as one another's mortal enemy... glad I never set foot in that madhouse in 20 year and most likely won't ever again.
austin-cheney 7mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_... https://www.ifj.org/war-in-gaza https://www.ifj.org/war-in-gaza
benterix 7mo ago
> ow, when ukraine shows that they are strong, people on the internet look horrified how russian soldiers are annihilated with fpv drones and scream about how such things are war crimes and should be stopped. Sorry who are those people and where I can find them? In my bubble Ukraine is still the victim who lost 20% of its land, and Russians are still bombing the country daily, both military and civilian targets. All male Ukrainians are basically prisoners in their own country who can only pray they don't die soon.
AlotOfReading 7mo ago
Israel prioritises its own people, so hamas should do the same... Last I checked, the Israeli government opposed a two-state solution. That means Palestinians are Israel's people.

dlubarov 7mo ago

It's more or less the same with any modern military. Ukraine for example doesn't allow journalists (foreign or not) in the more dangerous areas near front lines, with rare exceptions for journalists that they invite and escort. It's perfectly reasonable to not want unrestricted journalists leaking information about military assets, or possibly getting themselves killed. Most people seem to understand (or at least not care) when Ukraine imposes press restrictions. The question should be, why are people suddenly outraged when Israel does roughly the same thing?

austin-cheney 7mo ago
That is not the same. When the US invaded Iraq there were over 3000 journalists in Iraq. None of them were in firing zones to be used as human shields. That said, there are still journalists operating in Ukraine even today. How many journalists does Israel allow in Gaza, anywhere in Gaza? The answer is 0. Worse still is that they appear to directly target journalists for elimination, as became evident when they shot a rocket at a building stairwell that contained only journalists trying to transmit video and then shot a second rocket at the exact same location shortly after to kill any first responders. The entire event, both rocket attacks, was caught on video that made it out of the enclave. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nasser_Hospital_strikes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nasser_Hospital_strikes
- dlubarov 7mo ago
  Iraq isn't the most useful comparison because it wasn't feasible for the US to fully control access; determined journalists could find ways into the warzone. They still tried to encourage embedded journalists, who they could protect and also censor, so that they weren't tweeting photos showing artillery locations or what not. There are journalists operating in Ukraine, but they're either - embedded/escorted (IDF did a bit of that also) - in safe ("green") areas far away from fighting (Gaza is too small to really have those; Ukraine is ~1650x larger) - or just ignoring the laws, and illegally reporting from dangerous yellow or red zones
  - throwworhtthrow 7mo ago