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Take a look at a comparison of the iphone 17 and the iphone 12 https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17,iphone-12 https://www.apple.com/iphone

Take a look at a comparison of the iphone 17 and the iphone 12 https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17,iphone-12 https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17,ip... Is the newer model better? Sure! But it had 4k 60fps video, optical image stabilisation, a "super retina display" etc five generations ago. The specs have kept improving, but it's not a quantum leap in performance.

kasabali 7mo ago
iPhone 12 wasn't low end
- nandomrumber 7mo ago
  The same applies at the low end, the grand parent comment even agrees. You buy a new phone every two years, it comes with a camera, a cpu, a gpu, a host of sensors. Same as phones did two years ago, and ten years before that. I don’t use my current smart phone in any ways that are different to the iMate PDA2K I had twenty years so. https://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_pda2k-962.php https://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_pda2k-962.php
  - Aerroon 7mo ago
    How often does your browser freeze up when you open a webpage? How often does your phone browser dump its memory when you switch to another tab and then switch back? Eg if you were writing a post and opened another tab to go check some fact then the post in the original tab gets deleted. Because that's what happens if you use an old cheap phone in the modern day. I even had a phone that would occasionally just crash when on a heavy website and the onscreen keyboard popped up. That was not at all infuriating!!! Especially when it would crash when I try to refine a Google search.
    - nandomrumber 7mo ago
      Old cheap phone is not the same as modern low end.
  - throwaway2037 7mo ago
    > You buy a new phone every two years, it comes with a camera, a cpu, a gpu, a host of sensors. Same as phones did two years ago, and ten years before that. I am confused by this comment. I said that each time I buy a new low-end mobile phone, there are large improvements in the quality of screen, camera, cpu/gpu, and other sensors. Sure, I have had a 4k camera on a low-end mobile for about 10 years now, but the quality (light/colour) of photos and videos has improved dramatically.

kasabali 7mo ago

iPhone 12 wasn't low end

nandomrumber 7mo ago
The same applies at the low end, the grand parent comment even agrees. You buy a new phone every two years, it comes with a camera, a cpu, a gpu, a host of sensors. Same as phones did two years ago, and ten years before that. I don’t use my current smart phone in any ways that are different to the iMate PDA2K I had twenty years so. https://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_pda2k-962.php https://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_pda2k-962.php
- Aerroon 7mo ago
  How often does your browser freeze up when you open a webpage? How often does your phone browser dump its memory when you switch to another tab and then switch back? Eg if you were writing a post and opened another tab to go check some fact then the post in the original tab gets deleted. Because that's what happens if you use an old cheap phone in the modern day. I even had a phone that would occasionally just crash when on a heavy website and the onscreen keyboard popped up. That was not at all infuriating!!! Especially when it would crash when I try to refine a Google search.
  - nandomrumber 7mo ago
    Old cheap phone is not the same as modern low end.
- throwaway2037 7mo ago
  > You buy a new phone every two years, it comes with a camera, a cpu, a gpu, a host of sensors. Same as phones did two years ago, and ten years before that. I am confused by this comment. I said that each time I buy a new low-end mobile phone, there are large improvements in the quality of screen, camera, cpu/gpu, and other sensors. Sure, I have had a 4k camera on a low-end mobile for about 10 years now, but the quality (light/colour) of photos and videos has improved dramatically.