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Welp, it looks like if you selfhost, the sandboxing of plugins benefit goes out thr window from what I'm reading. What kind of open source is that? Opencore?

Welp, it looks like if you selfhost, the sandboxing of plugins benefit goes out thr window from what I'm reading. What kind of open source is that? Opencore? More like openinsecure, for thr security version, pay the Piper. I might still give it a try, but I sure hope we can put monthly monetary ceiling, had ceilings on our accounts. Anyone knows if cost-caps are possible on CLOUDFLARE??

bzmrgonz 6mo ago
Also, it looks like there are egress charges to download R2 object storage. So he day we choose to exit stage left, we will be taxed. Wanna setup independent backups for compliance, we will get taxed on egress. Am I reading this right guys??
- psz 6mo ago
  You read it wrong. Egress from R2 is free. https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/
Tepix 6mo ago
Unless someone adds this feature, this is completely uninteresting to me, as well as dishonestly presented by Cloudflare.
mpeg 6mo ago
Honestly, you'll struggle to find a cloud platform cheaper than cloudflare. The $5/mo gets you 10 million dynamic requests (static assets are not included in this limit, so often a single pageview will be 1 dynamic request) and that would be across the whole workers product for your account, no extra pricing for extra websites, domains, or anything else like you'd see in most "wordpress hosting" I run all my personal sites and client sites (one of them for a fortune 500 company) in the $5/mo plan, and the only time I went over that was when a client got hammered with malicious requests (and it was like $100) Disclaimer: I have no relationship to cloudflare, I'm just a happy customer
- arch-choot 6mo ago
  I run a rust webserver on a €4 VPS from hetzner that serves 300M (million) requests a day. Way cheaper than doing that on _any_ "serverless" request-based platform, I think.
  - dust-jacket 6mo ago
    interesting, I'd assumed the lowest tier of hetzner (4.50/m, 2 cpus, 4GB ram) wouldn't hold up to that. must be very light, for so much traffic. any more details?
    - arch-choot 6mo ago
      It's a BitTorrent tracker tracker.mywaifu.best:6969/announce Running https://github.com/ckcr4lyf/kiryuu https://github.com/ckcr4lyf/kiryuu (Disclaimer: I'm the author of kiryuu) CPX11, so 2vCPU/2GB
  - mpeg 6mo ago
    Yes perhaps I should have specified you can't get much cheaper for serverless platforms. You can certainly run a VPS like that for cheaper, you could probably even beat the raw request numbers from those 1€ a month vps from ovh or similar. The key difference is with cloudflare your site is globally distributed by default, and you get to buy into the whole ecosystem, if you want.
    - withinboredom 6mo ago
      > The key difference is with cloudflare your site is globally distributed by default, and you get to buy into the whole ecosystem, if you want. The real question nobody asks: do you even really need global distribution?
      - mpeg 6mo ago
        Most of the time: no But sometimes you do have clients in both sides of the atlantic and it's nice being able to cut their request times by a few hundred ms "for free". Personally, that's not the main reason I use cloudflare, but it can be handy!

bzmrgonz 6mo ago

Also, it looks like there are egress charges to download R2 object storage. So he day we choose to exit stage left, we will be taxed. Wanna setup independent backups for compliance, we will get taxed on egress. Am I reading this right guys??

psz 6mo ago
You read it wrong. Egress from R2 is free. https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/pricing/

Tepix 6mo ago

Unless someone adds this feature, this is completely uninteresting to me, as well as dishonestly presented by Cloudflare.

mpeg 6mo ago

Honestly, you'll struggle to find a cloud platform cheaper than cloudflare. The $5/mo gets you 10 million dynamic requests (static assets are not included in this limit, so often a single pageview will be 1 dynamic request) and that would be across the whole workers product for your account, no extra pricing for extra websites, domains, or anything else like you'd see in most "wordpress hosting" I run all my personal sites and client sites (one of them for a fortune 500 company) in the $5/mo plan, and the only time I went over that was when a client got hammered with malicious requests (and it was like $100) Disclaimer: I have no relationship to cloudflare, I'm just a happy customer

arch-choot 6mo ago
I run a rust webserver on a €4 VPS from hetzner that serves 300M (million) requests a day. Way cheaper than doing that on _any_ "serverless" request-based platform, I think.
- dust-jacket 6mo ago
  interesting, I'd assumed the lowest tier of hetzner (4.50/m, 2 cpus, 4GB ram) wouldn't hold up to that. must be very light, for so much traffic. any more details?
  - arch-choot 6mo ago
    It's a BitTorrent tracker tracker.mywaifu.best:6969/announce Running https://github.com/ckcr4lyf/kiryuu https://github.com/ckcr4lyf/kiryuu (Disclaimer: I'm the author of kiryuu) CPX11, so 2vCPU/2GB
- mpeg 6mo ago
  Yes perhaps I should have specified you can't get much cheaper for serverless platforms. You can certainly run a VPS like that for cheaper, you could probably even beat the raw request numbers from those 1€ a month vps from ovh or similar. The key difference is with cloudflare your site is globally distributed by default, and you get to buy into the whole ecosystem, if you want.
  - withinboredom 6mo ago
    > The key difference is with cloudflare your site is globally distributed by default, and you get to buy into the whole ecosystem, if you want. The real question nobody asks: do you even really need global distribution?
    - mpeg 6mo ago
      Most of the time: no But sometimes you do have clients in both sides of the atlantic and it's nice being able to cut their request times by a few hundred ms "for free". Personally, that's not the main reason I use cloudflare, but it can be handy!