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I agree, and the point I challenge is the blog post's first: > Lines Will Move Further Away If They Aren’t Defined Is that necessarily a bad thing? Sometimes

I agree, and the point I challenge is the blog post's first: > Lines Will Move Further Away If They Aren’t Defined Is that necessarily a bad thing? Sometimes I think some line is important, then I move closer to it, and realise the line is less important to me, and so I'll be less cautious of it. Some might say "slippery slope!" or "boiling a frog!", but I think of it as me updating my values as I learn more. Some people are prone to black-and-white thinking, and so I can see why they might be drawn to hard lines.

watwut 6mo ago
That is how you get Enron and generally how you get involved in fraud. That is how you create atrocities. Social approval from peers comes first, lines are moved, always because something that is approved by friends. It is not about slipper slope, you are not falling, you are simply consistently making decisions based on what people around you approve. If you dont have lines, you dont have values. You are just doing what is easy or socially approved right now.
- farfatched 6mo ago
  Likewise, every right granted to every minority has occurred because people have remained more open minded than "Set the Line Before It's Crossed". > Social approval from peers comes first, lines are moved, always because something that is approved by friends. I hope so! It would be too much for someone to figure this out all by themselves. Should lines have been set in 1500? 1800? 2026?
- coldtea 6mo ago
  This is also how you get a romantic relationship and friendships: you stop being uptight about everything and treat the other as a stranger, and start being more relaxed with bounderies reserved for strangers. A lost art today, where narcisism is "everybody else is toxic" and boundaries for everything is the norm.
  - watwut 6mo ago
    Narcissist do very well with and around people without boundaries. The contact with a narcissist is exactly the situation where you need them the most. Also, in fact, you can have friends and boundaries. If you cant, you need therapy.

watwut 6mo ago

That is how you get Enron and generally how you get involved in fraud. That is how you create atrocities. Social approval from peers comes first, lines are moved, always because something that is approved by friends. It is not about slipper slope, you are not falling, you are simply consistently making decisions based on what people around you approve. If you dont have lines, you dont have values. You are just doing what is easy or socially approved right now.

farfatched 6mo ago
Likewise, every right granted to every minority has occurred because people have remained more open minded than "Set the Line Before It's Crossed". > Social approval from peers comes first, lines are moved, always because something that is approved by friends. I hope so! It would be too much for someone to figure this out all by themselves. Should lines have been set in 1500? 1800? 2026?
coldtea 6mo ago
This is also how you get a romantic relationship and friendships: you stop being uptight about everything and treat the other as a stranger, and start being more relaxed with bounderies reserved for strangers. A lost art today, where narcisism is "everybody else is toxic" and boundaries for everything is the norm.
- watwut 6mo ago
  Narcissist do very well with and around people without boundaries. The contact with a narcissist is exactly the situation where you need them the most. Also, in fact, you can have friends and boundaries. If you cant, you need therapy.