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> So timed that all pretty great. What worries me is my desktop is up for a full new buy somewhere around early '28 That's a very specific date / timeline. How

> So timed that all pretty great. What worries me is my desktop is up for a full new buy somewhere around early '28 That's a very specific date / timeline. How do you decide to do a full new buy? I ask because I own a desktop that I built 15 years ago which I was flirting with replacing completely last year, but unfortunately I didn't pull the trigger ... oops :( My old rig is still going strong. The motherboard can only take up to 32GB DDR3 though. CPU is an Intel i7-4790k which is still very fair today if you are not running a resource hog OS (looking at you Windows). Overall it is completely serviceable for my needs. Being honest with myself the only reason I wanted to upgrade was for nerd cred but I don't game much anymore and don't do any ML tasks that require lots of local compute.

globular-toast 7mo ago
My PC is similar. I upgraded it to a 4790k a few years ago (best CPU on the socket). What's funny is I also maxed out the RAM as well because I realised two more 8GiB sticks were like £30 so why not. I thought it was a funny thing to do at the time as I didn't really need that much, but glad I did now. It's going to have to do me for many more years to come, but I'm fine with that. I don't game at all. Just have to hope nothing fails. I did build it with solid foundations: good and overprovisioned PSU, Asus mobo, so here's hoping. Unfortunately I do also have server gear now as well. I'm going to have to really think about what I actually need now...
Havoc 7mo ago
>That's a very specific date / timeline. It's aimed at roughly hitting Zen 6 and switching to high refresh rate 4K gaming. Was really hoping I could hop to ddr6 and pcie 6 too, but that seems less plausible >How do you decide to do a full new buy? Gut feel, it's a 2019 build that had a mid life refresh so 2028 is near a decade, which for a gaming rig is good going. Gaming also means a big VRAM GPU makes sense for toying with LLMs because I get dual use out of it. Plus I don't think the 3090 much as I like it will drive 4K high refresh. ...If it wasn't for gaming I could definite keep this rig till 2030+. It's comically overspec'd for browsing and casual dev stuff. Hell it's even got an optane boot drive so that'll last till the end of time
- vegadw 7mo ago
  I suspect there's a lot of people on the 2028 refresh train. If you bought a 1700 in 2017/2018 - which a lot of people did, because it was so good $/perf, you could ride the AM4 platform to a 5900(x/xt) now and be still pretty happy, but AM4 is a dead end now and the X570 motherboards are hard to find. So, if you want more PCIe, DDR5, etc. it'll be time to jump once it starts to feel sluggish for high end tasks (gaming, etc.) around that time.
  - Havoc 7mo ago
    > X570 motherboards are hard to find They're alive and well in ebay land. The SSD NAS I mentioned was a x570 ebay build because they can do full ECC and ebay was full of old AM4 gaming builds aging out. >more PCIe, Yeah that's the sticking point, though a good x570 can do 7x nvme and 8x sata...so plenty for a NAS if you're up for colouring outside the lines a bit.

globular-toast 7mo ago

My PC is similar. I upgraded it to a 4790k a few years ago (best CPU on the socket). What's funny is I also maxed out the RAM as well because I realised two more 8GiB sticks were like £30 so why not. I thought it was a funny thing to do at the time as I didn't really need that much, but glad I did now. It's going to have to do me for many more years to come, but I'm fine with that. I don't game at all. Just have to hope nothing fails. I did build it with solid foundations: good and overprovisioned PSU, Asus mobo, so here's hoping. Unfortunately I do also have server gear now as well. I'm going to have to really think about what I actually need now...

Havoc 7mo ago

>That's a very specific date / timeline. It's aimed at roughly hitting Zen 6 and switching to high refresh rate 4K gaming. Was really hoping I could hop to ddr6 and pcie 6 too, but that seems less plausible >How do you decide to do a full new buy? Gut feel, it's a 2019 build that had a mid life refresh so 2028 is near a decade, which for a gaming rig is good going. Gaming also means a big VRAM GPU makes sense for toying with LLMs because I get dual use out of it. Plus I don't think the 3090 much as I like it will drive 4K high refresh. ...If it wasn't for gaming I could definite keep this rig till 2030+. It's comically overspec'd for browsing and casual dev stuff. Hell it's even got an optane boot drive so that'll last till the end of time

vegadw 7mo ago
I suspect there's a lot of people on the 2028 refresh train. If you bought a 1700 in 2017/2018 - which a lot of people did, because it was so good $/perf, you could ride the AM4 platform to a 5900(x/xt) now and be still pretty happy, but AM4 is a dead end now and the X570 motherboards are hard to find. So, if you want more PCIe, DDR5, etc. it'll be time to jump once it starts to feel sluggish for high end tasks (gaming, etc.) around that time.
- Havoc 7mo ago
  > X570 motherboards are hard to find They're alive and well in ebay land. The SSD NAS I mentioned was a x570 ebay build because they can do full ECC and ebay was full of old AM4 gaming builds aging out. >more PCIe, Yeah that's the sticking point, though a good x570 can do 7x nvme and 8x sata...so plenty for a NAS if you're up for colouring outside the lines a bit.