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DRAM pricing is killing the everything market. We just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit for some machines because of a mix of memory + supply chain i
by jonathantf2 6mo ago
DRAM pricing is killing the everything market.
We just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit for some machines because of a mix of memory + supply chain issues.
- dangus 6mo agoThat’s strange, there aren’t wider market supply chain issues outside of DRAM. Maybe your vendor is just throwing excuses around.
- OJFord 6mo agoDRAM is up more than that 50% though.
- ls612 6mo agoSSDs and HDDs are being squeezed as well.
- mhitza 6mo agoDon't forget SDCards "Memory card prices have TRIPLED in the last few months: when will this madness stop?!" https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/cameras/memory-cards/memory-card-prices-have-tripled-in-the-last-few-months-when-will-this-madness-stop https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/cameras/memory-cards/memo...
- geerlingguy 6mo agoSony stopped making their cards entirely, which stinks because I'd settled on their pro cards for all my camera bodies.
- tempest_ 6mo agoWe just had a vendor tell us none of the HDDs we were looking for were available unless we also committed to a full NAS offering.
- cyanydeez 6mo ago[flagged]
- celsius1414 6mo agoThey’re throwing something around.
- CTDOCodebases 6mo agoFuel price rises = logistics price rises.
- michaelt 6mo agoYou're right that fuel prices have risen. But usually the impact of fuel prices is mostly felt on bulkier, lower cost items first. After all, a truck can carry a 10kg sack of rice, or a 10kg nvidia gpu. If shipping costs for 10kg rise by $15 the sack of rice has doubled in price, but the GPU is only 0.5% more expensive.
- kube-system 6mo agoFor a truck yeah, but across the ocean, it isn't quite that simple because GPUs and grains are sent in different types of ships (or different modes entirely) that aren't interchangeable.
- michaelt 6mo agoYou're right - perishable goods have to be shipped fast. Your bananas, berries, fresh fish, and not-fron-concentrate juice can't be on some slow-steaming container ship with the furniture, clothes, building materials and vehicles. The GPUs can though.
- selectodude 6mo agoAnd the GPUs are such high margin that they all take an airplane anyway.
- kube-system 6mo agoThat is other “different mode entirely” that exists to go across an ocean :)
- kube-system 6mo agoRice is a nonperishable grain. Grain ships in neither of those. Grain is shipped in bulk carriers
- Analemma_ 6mo agoThis isn't true: NAND flash prices are up too, though not nearly as dramatically. But the war means that fuel and shipping prices are way up as well.
- matt-p 6mo agoFlash has supply (and price) problems too.
- icedchai 6mo agoI assume this is sarcasm.
- noosphr 6mo ago>That’s strange, there aren’t wider market supply chain issues outside of DRAM. GPUs, ram, ssds, hdds, hell even CPUs are starting to climb in price. It's an everything shortage and it's only getting worse. A workstation that two years ago cost $3,000 was $10,000 last month and $10,500 this month. There are parts which aren't available at any price.
- Kaliboy 6mo agoWait what? That's over 300%. Between this revelation and that post recently on HN about the scanned receipts and egg prices, I find myself wondering if we're worrying about the wrong things. We're seeing massive inflation in computing, but because the dollar is holding its value we call it increased prices. But the buying by the big buyers is the thing driving the inflation, its mechanism is scarcity. But it's also localized. Only we experience this as a problem because compared to the hyperscalers we're poor. The same idea applies to the price of groceries. As the prices increase, base increase being inflation, but logistic efficiency also plays a big role. The effect is the same. The ones with more spendable income don't experience an issue yet in the projects nobody is eating fresh veggies. The part that scares me is the creep, as I call it. Throughout the years I've always been able to carry price shocks and such but this time I'm out of the game. No more DRAM for me. I then wonder if one day, without losing my job, I won't be able to pay for veggies.
- phil21 6mo agoYeah. Not true. Or send me the name of your server vendor. I’m buying. Having issues with both price and availability on NVMe, SATA flash, starting to see some CPUs, and for a personal project high density spinning rust (24TB+).
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- zie 6mo agoAt work we just got a quote to upgrade a couple servers, original price a few years ago was ~ $150k. Essentially the same hardware, just newer, is now quoted at ~ $450k. We decided to just keep our current hardware for now and extend a support contract for ~ normal price.
- pilgrim0 6mo agoI wonder how long these shortages have to last until software developers are required to be mindful of RAM usage like in the decades before,
- zx8080 6mo agoProbably not. AI code generation will not allow to use memory efficiently.
- Fabricio20 6mo agoQuite the opposite i'd wager. Now that AI can figure everything out we can have the AIs do the performance work. Performance work alot of the times also went against developer experience in terms of languages/patterns and such. AI doesn't need to care about DevEx which might also show a shift towards more memory efficient languages and patterns. Only time will tell though.
- MikePlacid 6mo agoIs it not enough to add to your prompt “use memory efficiently”?
- firen777 6mo ago> a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit Try 200% (tho tbf our boss sit on that quote for like a year and a half because he thought it was too pricey. Bet he regretted it now). And all the quotes are now only valid for a week due to insane price fluctuation.
- CyberDildonics 6mo agoWe just had a vendor uplift our quote 50% per unit Good thing they didn't increase it.