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Israel's not even close to being the biggest threat for the way of living in Europe. This is because Israel's neighbours who they are attacking aren't in Europ

by ben_w 7mo ago

Israel's not even close to being the biggest threat for the way of living in Europe. This is because Israel's neighbours who they are attacking aren't in Europe, and also there's a lot of tourists in Europe that Israel would like to be visiting them, but the point isn't why, it's just that Israel are not themselves a threat to Europe. USA's probably number 2 threat after Russia. But neither Israel's nor the USA's belligerence regarding Iran seems to be so much as painting a target on European backs this time around. Which may be because Iran noticed the USA threatening Europe, IDK.

fakedang 7mo ago
- Israel foments conflicts and urges/pressurizes the US to fight them out on its behalf - already confirmed by General Wesley Clark who talked about the Seven Nation Plan. - Refugees flee those conflicts and move to the closest nations providing asylum en masse - Turkey and then the EU. - Israeli and other Jewish NGOs facilitate refugee migrations to Europe in the name of humanitarianism. The US at least helps/used to help protect Europe via NATO. Israel doesn't.
- krior 7mo ago
  The US is a sovreign state. As such it is alone responsible for its actions. The conflict with Iran wouldn't be as hot without the US.
- ben_w 7mo ago
  None of those things are a "biggest threat for the way of living in Europe", which is what I was quoting from the now flagged comment from juliusceasar. Not even with the asylum seekers arriving via Turkey; though as the Turkish leadership actively tried to use the flow of asylum seekers to extract concessions from Europe, IMO Turkey gets the blame for that. The US indeed used to help protect Europe via NATO, but even back then (so, two years ago), the much bigger metaphorical footprint of the US vs. Israel means the US posed a bigger threat than Israel currently does just by mis-stepping. Israel may be important to the US, but the nation is just not that potent in any direction in Europe.

by ben_w 7mo ago

fakedang 7mo ago

- Israel foments conflicts and urges/pressurizes the US to fight them out on its behalf - already confirmed by General Wesley Clark who talked about the Seven Nation Plan. - Refugees flee those conflicts and move to the closest nations providing asylum en masse - Turkey and then the EU. - Israeli and other Jewish NGOs facilitate refugee migrations to Europe in the name of humanitarianism. The US at least helps/used to help protect Europe via NATO. Israel doesn't.

krior 7mo ago
The US is a sovreign state. As such it is alone responsible for its actions. The conflict with Iran wouldn't be as hot without the US.
ben_w 7mo ago
None of those things are a "biggest threat for the way of living in Europe", which is what I was quoting from the now flagged comment from juliusceasar. Not even with the asylum seekers arriving via Turkey; though as the Turkish leadership actively tried to use the flow of asylum seekers to extract concessions from Europe, IMO Turkey gets the blame for that. The US indeed used to help protect Europe via NATO, but even back then (so, two years ago), the much bigger metaphorical footprint of the US vs. Israel means the US posed a bigger threat than Israel currently does just by mis-stepping. Israel may be important to the US, but the nation is just not that potent in any direction in Europe.