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>i did not expect people to advocate for ignoring licenses > am too old to expend energy trying to convince people that the rule of law loses all meaning if it
by stackghost 6mo ago
>i did not expect people to advocate for ignoring licenses
> am too old to expend energy trying to convince people that the rule of law loses all meaning if it is selectively applied.
Again, for what feels like the third or fourth time, this is already happening all over the globe.
It's an open secret, for example, that the AI companies trained their models on pirated textbooks. It's not even an open secret, just the bare-faced truth, that the AI companies trained and continue to train on source-available software without regards for license. It's common knowledge that Russian and Chinese companies (among others) benefit from state-sponsored corporate espionage and sanctioned software piracy. The Rule of Law is dead in many countries, including the United States.
There's literally nothing to be gained by not following suit. You can't pay your rent with ethics.
- john_strinlai 6mo ago>Again, for what feels like the third or fourth time, this is already happening all over the globe. this is weird logic. scams happen every minute of every day all over the globe, i do not advocate for more people to scam. >It's an open secret, for example, that the AI companies trained their models on pirated textbooks. yeah, and that was wrong. >You can't pay your rent with ethics. this is a sad sentence.
- stackghost 6mo ago>this is a sad sentence. I don't disagree, but I'm talking about the real world that we inhabit, not the fictional idealized world we wistfully discuss in classrooms. The world is a shitty place full of shitty people. Being an idealist is just asking to be taken advantage of.
- john_strinlai 6mo ago>fictional idealized world we wistfully discuss in classrooms. you can live in the real world without stealing software from people and justifying it because they were born in the "wrong" country. i have done it my entire life. "two wrongs dont make a right" is a pretty simple rule to live by, even in the real world. perhaps unsurprisingly, it is also good for ones mental health.
- stackghost 6mo agoThe software in question is, IIUC, a bastardized AGPL. You'll have to clarify for me how forking it constitutes stealing. Explain it like I'm in kindergarten.
- dust-jacket 6mo agoBut that wasn't your point. Your point was that, because Russia, it _didn't matter_ if it did constitute stealing.
- stackghost 6mo agoNo, you seem to have misunderstood my point.