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The power of WordPress is not the ease of use, but PHP. Anything built on PHP will be widely used, like Laravel

echelon 6mo ago
All PHP is going to be replaced with single binary Rust apps. Talented teams will build the atoms for most apps - blogs, CMSes, ticket systems, forums - and it'll be easy for end users to configure. Rust is easy to code gen and deploy now. No barrier to understanding lifetimes. It's the language everyone should be using Claude Code to emit. Everyone is now a Rust engineer with 10 years of experience. (I'm not joking, just in case that needs clarification.) If you haven't tried writing a simple web service in Axum or Actix plus SQLx, you need to give it a try. You'll be amazed at how simple it is, and you'll be even more amazed at how performant and easy it is to work with. You do not need to know Rust or have any prior Rust experience. You'll pick it up along the way. It's easy and you'll learn it fast. Rust is a low-defect rate language to serialize to. The syntax begs you to handle errors, nulls, exceptional conditions within the language itself. This is naturally a good fit for most business problems. It doesn't hurt that the language is fast as hell and super portable either. If the job is now encoding business logic - this is the optimal serialization that I'm aware of. I write Go, Java, Python, TypeScript, PHP, Swift - I can't think of any better language for greenfield projects that don't have existing language/library requirements.
- kemayo 6mo ago
  I'm not sure you appreciate why PHP was successful. You might be completely right about all this, but the LAMP-stack "just upload this file to shared hosting" workflow is what made apps like WordPress win out, and the barrier remains significantly higher to do the equivalent with Rust.
  - echelon 6mo ago
    Historically successful. Draging a bunch of PHP files onto an FTP client is harder than modern dev practices. If you've got a modern frontend of any kind, you're already beyond this.
- _verandaguy 6mo ago
  These april fools jokes keep getting lazier every year.
- tim-projects 6mo ago
  Having to compile makes it a pain in the ass to develop with vs php. No existing WordPress dev would ever willingly make that choice
onion2k 6mo ago
That used to be a major selling point because hosts enabled PHP for a directory devs would FTP things into, but those days are thankfully long gone. I don't think it's any more difficult to host a JS, TS, or anything else, app than it is to host a PHP app today. In fact, PHP is probably more difficult than something like Netlify.
- misiek08 6mo ago
  That’s also nice joke! You are all killing it today
- trvz 6mo ago
  Well, you’re quite fucking wrong there.
- hrmtst93837 6mo ago
  [flagged]
  - ValentineC 6mo ago
    > With PHP you can still drop a single file on shared hosting and be up in minutes, with no build step or CDN proxy in the mix. I don't have a shared hosting account any more, nor do I want to have to figure out which providers are the best for my needs. It's far quicker for me to upload something to Cloudflare Pages or Netlify.
    - AndrianV 6mo ago
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All PHP is going to be replaced with single binary Rust apps. Talented teams will build the atoms for most apps - blogs, CMSes, ticket systems, forums - and it'll be easy for end users to configure. Rust is easy to code gen and deploy now. No barrier to understanding lifetimes. It's the language everyone should be using Claude Code to emit. Everyone is now a Rust engineer with 10 years of experience. (I'm not joking, just in case that needs clarification.) If you haven't tried writing a simple web service in Axum or Actix plus SQLx, you need to give it a try. You'll be amazed at how simple it is, and you'll be even more amazed at how performant and easy it is to work with. You do not need to know Rust or have any prior Rust experience. You'll pick it up along the way. It's easy and you'll learn it fast. Rust is a low-defect rate language to serialize to. The syntax begs you to handle errors, nulls, exceptional conditions within the language itself. This is naturally a good fit for most business problems. It doesn't hurt that the language is fast as hell and super portable either. If the job is now encoding business logic - this is the optimal serialization that I'm aware of. I write Go, Java, Python, TypeScript, PHP, Swift - I can't think of any better language for greenfield projects that don't have existing language/library requirements.

kemayo 6mo ago
I'm not sure you appreciate why PHP was successful. You might be completely right about all this, but the LAMP-stack "just upload this file to shared hosting" workflow is what made apps like WordPress win out, and the barrier remains significantly higher to do the equivalent with Rust.
- echelon 6mo ago
  Historically successful. Draging a bunch of PHP files onto an FTP client is harder than modern dev practices. If you've got a modern frontend of any kind, you're already beyond this.
_verandaguy 6mo ago
These april fools jokes keep getting lazier every year.
tim-projects 6mo ago
Having to compile makes it a pain in the ass to develop with vs php. No existing WordPress dev would ever willingly make that choice

onion2k 6mo ago

That used to be a major selling point because hosts enabled PHP for a directory devs would FTP things into, but those days are thankfully long gone. I don't think it's any more difficult to host a JS, TS, or anything else, app than it is to host a PHP app today. In fact, PHP is probably more difficult than something like Netlify.

misiek08 6mo ago
That’s also nice joke! You are all killing it today
trvz 6mo ago
Well, you’re quite fucking wrong there.
hrmtst93837 6mo ago
[flagged]
- ValentineC 6mo ago
  > With PHP you can still drop a single file on shared hosting and be up in minutes, with no build step or CDN proxy in the mix. I don't have a shared hosting account any more, nor do I want to have to figure out which providers are the best for my needs. It's far quicker for me to upload something to Cloudflare Pages or Netlify.
  - AndrianV 6mo ago
    [dead]