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None of those things will be necessary if progress continues as it has. The AI will do all of that. In fact it will generate software that uses already proven a

None of those things will be necessary if progress continues as it has. The AI will do all of that. In fact it will generate software that uses already proven architectures (instead of inventing new ones for every project as human developers like to do). The testing has already been done: they work. There are no vulnerabilites. They are able to communicate with stakeholders (management) using their native language, not technobabble that human developers like to use, so they understand the business needs natively.

bobthepanda 7mo ago
Humans are still in the loop as the final signoff responsible for liability, and to do an audit you’ll need someone who knows what they’re looking at.
- SoftTalker 7mo ago
  Liabilty will be waived in the terms of use.
  - bobthepanda 7mo ago
    Terms of use are not a legal “get of out jail” free card.
array_key_first 7mo ago
If this is the case then none of us will have jobs; we will be completely useless. I think, most likely, you'll still need developers in the mix to make sure the development is going right. You can't just have only business people, because they have no way to gauge if the AI is making the right decisions in regards to technical requirements. So even if the AI DOES get as good as you're saying, they wouldn't know that without developers.
- SpikeMeister 7mo ago
  To play devils advocate, do the technical requirements even matter in that case if nobody can tell they aren’t being met? It’s short term thinking IMO, but it’s my interpretation of the argument AI proponents are making.
lelandbatey 7mo ago
> They work For some definition of work, yes, not every definition. Their product is not without flaw, leaving room at for improvement, and room for improvement by more than only other AI. > There are no vulnerabilities That's just not true. There's loads of vulnerabilities, just as there's plenty of vulnerabilities in human written code. Try it, point an AI looking for vulns at the output of an AI that's been through the highest intensity and scrutiny workflow, even code that has already been AI reviewed for vulnerabilities.

bobthepanda 7mo ago

Humans are still in the loop as the final signoff responsible for liability, and to do an audit you’ll need someone who knows what they’re looking at.

SoftTalker 7mo ago
Liabilty will be waived in the terms of use.
- bobthepanda 7mo ago
  Terms of use are not a legal “get of out jail” free card.

array_key_first 7mo ago

If this is the case then none of us will have jobs; we will be completely useless. I think, most likely, you'll still need developers in the mix to make sure the development is going right. You can't just have only business people, because they have no way to gauge if the AI is making the right decisions in regards to technical requirements. So even if the AI DOES get as good as you're saying, they wouldn't know that without developers.

SpikeMeister 7mo ago
To play devils advocate, do the technical requirements even matter in that case if nobody can tell they aren’t being met? It’s short term thinking IMO, but it’s my interpretation of the argument AI proponents are making.

lelandbatey 7mo ago

> They work For some definition of work, yes, not every definition. Their product is not without flaw, leaving room at for improvement, and room for improvement by more than only other AI. > There are no vulnerabilities That's just not true. There's loads of vulnerabilities, just as there's plenty of vulnerabilities in human written code. Try it, point an AI looking for vulns at the output of an AI that's been through the highest intensity and scrutiny workflow, even code that has already been AI reviewed for vulnerabilities.