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At least the US still has energy infrastructure, while the EU is forced to financially support Dictators in Tehran and Moscow to keep their economy from collaps

At least the US still has energy infrastructure, while the EU is forced to financially support Dictators in Tehran and Moscow to keep their economy from collapsing.

vrganj 6mo ago
This article is literally about Europe rapidly building out its sovereign energy infrastructure?
ben_w 6mo ago
Oil is (close to) fungible, which means the higher prices in US fuel pumps are just as much financially supporting dictators in Tehran and Moscow as EU fuel pumps. Ironically, the "close to" part is just enough to prevent the USA from isolating itself from the world market by refining and using what it currently exports.
- oceanplexian 6mo ago
  Pretty sure the US does not buy energy from natural gas pipelines to Russia, neither are we shutting down all of our Nuclear Power Plants (like Germany) because it's green to import more gas ? As an American I couldn't tell you what their logic is exactly.
  - ben_w 6mo ago
    > Pretty sure the US does not buy energy from natural gas pipelines to Russia, neither are we shutting down all of our Nuclear Power Plants (like Germany) because it's green to import more gas ? Irrelevant. Natural gas isn't the only fossil fuel, the US trades oil on the global market, that oil trade cannot help but support all other petrostates. Also, if you're talking about Germany in particular, renewables have significantly exceeded the peak share of nuclear power: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:StromerzeugungDeutschland.svg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:StromerzeugungDeutschlan... (Kernenergie == nuclear) To use the table that the chart is supposed to be based on, the peak of nuclear production in Germany was only about 60% of 2025's renewables, 284.6 TWh renewables in 2025 vs 169.6 TWh nuclear in 2000: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromerzeugung_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromerzeugung_in_Deutschland
LtWorf 6mo ago
Didn't trump remove sanctions to russia?

At least the US still has energy infrastructure, while the EU is forced to financially support Dictators in Tehran and Moscow to keep their economy from collapsing.

vrganj 6mo ago

This article is literally about Europe rapidly building out its sovereign energy infrastructure?

ben_w 6mo ago

Oil is (close to) fungible, which means the higher prices in US fuel pumps are just as much financially supporting dictators in Tehran and Moscow as EU fuel pumps. Ironically, the "close to" part is just enough to prevent the USA from isolating itself from the world market by refining and using what it currently exports.

oceanplexian 6mo ago
Pretty sure the US does not buy energy from natural gas pipelines to Russia, neither are we shutting down all of our Nuclear Power Plants (like Germany) because it's green to import more gas ? As an American I couldn't tell you what their logic is exactly.
- ben_w 6mo ago
  > Pretty sure the US does not buy energy from natural gas pipelines to Russia, neither are we shutting down all of our Nuclear Power Plants (like Germany) because it's green to import more gas ? Irrelevant. Natural gas isn't the only fossil fuel, the US trades oil on the global market, that oil trade cannot help but support all other petrostates. Also, if you're talking about Germany in particular, renewables have significantly exceeded the peak share of nuclear power: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:StromerzeugungDeutschland.svg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:StromerzeugungDeutschlan... (Kernenergie == nuclear) To use the table that the chart is supposed to be based on, the peak of nuclear production in Germany was only about 60% of 2025's renewables, 284.6 TWh renewables in 2025 vs 169.6 TWh nuclear in 2000: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromerzeugung_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromerzeugung_in_Deutschland

LtWorf 6mo ago

Didn't trump remove sanctions to russia?