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That's what happens when you're so untrustworthy as Sam Altman. This is coming to roost now. Ever since Paul Graham even said he'll get whatever he wants by any

That's what happens when you're so untrustworthy as Sam Altman. This is coming to roost now. Ever since Paul Graham even said he'll get whatever he wants by any means necessary, basically. And then his board turns on him. He's a constant liar.

baal80spam 6mo ago
Something I don't quite understand is why software developers are flocking to CC - product of a company whose CEO literally said they will be out of job because of it.
- chpatrick 6mo ago
  If he's right they'll be out of job regardless whether it's because of Claude or another AI.
- lacunary 6mo ago
  ostrich, meet sand. I mean, have you tried CC? It's fun to build stuff with it. I think developers that don't use it (or something like it) will be out of a job, yes (unless they're very niche).
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- IncreasePosts 6mo ago
  That's like asking why people who shovel shit all day started using backhoes to do their shit shoveling
- sd9 6mo ago
  Because whether I use it or not doesn’t affect the fact that it’s going to take my job. It’s still the easiest way to get things done today.
- bayarearefugee 6mo ago
  I am a software developer that believes LLMs will ruin the market for us in terms of destroying a lot (not all, but more than enough to be devestating) jobs and depressing wages, but I still have no real option but to use them to remain relevant for now. That said, I dont have a horse in the race and have used all the available options and find it very easy to switch among them, so I'm not a specific booster of Claude Code or any other option.
- verst 6mo ago
  Like Jensen Huang said the job of an engineer is to solve problems not writing code. The code is a means to an end. This is certainly true for me as an engineer and why I'm not worried about AI.
- rvz 6mo ago
  Because fear sells easily to those who do not know the future. Dario constantly fearmongers to them and 98% of software developers all fall for it, and he needs to sell you access to his product. The future is local LLMs and Dario knows this is their main threat. Just as Cursor, they don't want to pay for Claude anymore and are going with local models.
noosphr 6mo ago
People don't know who Dario is yet. Sam looks like a used car sales man. Dario looks like he'd hand out coolaid at Jonestown.
- kelseyfrog 6mo ago
  As long as it means Sam doesn't get another dollar from me. What's the flavor?
  - achierius 6mo ago
    Death
- retsibsi 6mo ago
  What are you actually claiming? Your take on their looks is irrelevant, and I don't know if you're hinting at anything specific when you say "People don't know who Dario is yet".
bayarearefugee 6mo ago
I wish being untrustworthy and being unsuccessful were linked in this way, but sadly they are not. Altman's untrustworthiness goes all the way back to Loopt and Paul Graham's comments about him were meant as praise, not criticism. OpenAI's problem is that in addition to Altman being untrustworthy he has also just been flailing in terms of focus.
- yabutlivnWoods 6mo ago
  > ...just been flailing... Brains fried post late-00s to 10s endless ZIRP waterfall helping them fail up. Not used to reality where everything they touch does not turn to gold.
sd9 6mo ago
It’s just because ChatGPT is worse than Claude as of today. If that flipped, which is probably will at some point, if only temporarily, OpenAI will be back on top. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with Altman’s morals.

baal80spam 6mo ago

Something I don't quite understand is why software developers are flocking to CC - product of a company whose CEO literally said they will be out of job because of it.

chpatrick 6mo ago
If he's right they'll be out of job regardless whether it's because of Claude or another AI.
lacunary 6mo ago
ostrich, meet sand. I mean, have you tried CC? It's fun to build stuff with it. I think developers that don't use it (or something like it) will be out of a job, yes (unless they're very niche).
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IncreasePosts 6mo ago
That's like asking why people who shovel shit all day started using backhoes to do their shit shoveling
sd9 6mo ago
Because whether I use it or not doesn’t affect the fact that it’s going to take my job. It’s still the easiest way to get things done today.
bayarearefugee 6mo ago
I am a software developer that believes LLMs will ruin the market for us in terms of destroying a lot (not all, but more than enough to be devestating) jobs and depressing wages, but I still have no real option but to use them to remain relevant for now. That said, I dont have a horse in the race and have used all the available options and find it very easy to switch among them, so I'm not a specific booster of Claude Code or any other option.
verst 6mo ago
Like Jensen Huang said the job of an engineer is to solve problems not writing code. The code is a means to an end. This is certainly true for me as an engineer and why I'm not worried about AI.
rvz 6mo ago
Because fear sells easily to those who do not know the future. Dario constantly fearmongers to them and 98% of software developers all fall for it, and he needs to sell you access to his product. The future is local LLMs and Dario knows this is their main threat. Just as Cursor, they don't want to pay for Claude anymore and are going with local models.

noosphr 6mo ago

People don't know who Dario is yet. Sam looks like a used car sales man. Dario looks like he'd hand out coolaid at Jonestown.

kelseyfrog 6mo ago
As long as it means Sam doesn't get another dollar from me. What's the flavor?
- achierius 6mo ago
  Death
retsibsi 6mo ago
What are you actually claiming? Your take on their looks is irrelevant, and I don't know if you're hinting at anything specific when you say "People don't know who Dario is yet".

bayarearefugee 6mo ago

I wish being untrustworthy and being unsuccessful were linked in this way, but sadly they are not. Altman's untrustworthiness goes all the way back to Loopt and Paul Graham's comments about him were meant as praise, not criticism. OpenAI's problem is that in addition to Altman being untrustworthy he has also just been flailing in terms of focus.

yabutlivnWoods 6mo ago
> ...just been flailing... Brains fried post late-00s to 10s endless ZIRP waterfall helping them fail up. Not used to reality where everything they touch does not turn to gold.

sd9 6mo ago

It’s just because ChatGPT is worse than Claude as of today. If that flipped, which is probably will at some point, if only temporarily, OpenAI will be back on top. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with Altman’s morals.