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Considering outcomes of children that grow up in a single parent scenario are well-known to be much better when it is the father rather than the mother, in the
by snvzz 7mo ago
Considering outcomes of children that grow up in a single parent scenario are well-known to be much better when it is the father rather than the mother, in the interest of the child, I would propose splitting custody between the two fathers, leaving the mother out.
- muskstinks 7mo agoYeah probably because our patrichary is shit and woman earn a lot less money than man do which makes it easier for the man to pay for baby sitter, nanny, education etc. Perhaps we fixup our society instead of blaming it to a woman?
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoNo clue why you are getting downvoted. It's well documented that women earn less. It's well documented that children are expensive. It's well documented that social safety nets are inadequate to assist in raising a child. You've literally just stated some objective facts and suggested we fix some of those challenges.
- ap99 7mo agoMoney isn't the only factor of why the single fathers produce better outcomes for their children.
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoShow your work, provide a source.
- mieses 7mo agoyou bring an interesting perspective
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoThanks, appreciate it.
- muskstinks 7mo agoAh yes other factors of misogynistics like potential men seeing a single mother as an issue why potential woman might not. Btw. its also a lot harder for man to get the sole custody which means that only the most motivated and well suited men even achieve this probably also with an expensive lawyer.
- giantg2 7mo agoI assume they are getting down voted because their statement is emotional and seemingly unsupported (seems to ignore child support). After accounting for child support, they should have similar resources. We can further investigate this when comparing to intact families - single parents of either sex have wealth gaps with intact families, yet outcomes in single father families tend to be close to the outcomes of the intact families. We would probably need more research into the topic to find concrete causes, but there doesn't seem to be much interest in that.
- muskstinks 7mo agoI would have a lot more money even with child support just because I earn so much more than my wife. So in avg man earn more and have more carerse because they do not stay at home for the children. Also guess who normally gets custody? Yeah the mother. So having a man getting custidy is not normal at all. This skews the data massivly. So as long as we are not experts here but a group of men earning above avg, we might not stereotype and dismiss genders.
- giantg2 7mo ago"I would have a lot more money even with child support just because I earn so much more than my wife." That depends on the state, especially looking at after tax income due to the tax treatment on both sides. "So having a man getting custidy is not normal at all. " I agree there could be bias there. I think if we looked at households with deceased parents and then controlled for income, that would present a good elimination of bias.
- muskstinks 7mo agoThere should be a cap in all states of child support. And independent of this, the person with a lot more income can do things the other person can't like getting a nani. And lets be honest here: A single father is so rare that this alone raises eyebrows and questions. Ironically more like positive reactions and dismissive ones against the woman.
- cjs_ac 7mo ago> Considering outcomes of children that grow up in a single parent scenario are well-known to be much better when it is the father rather than the mother I've never heard this and would be very interested in a source.
- ap99 7mo agoJust google it. Better outcomes all around when the father is the only parent as opposed to when the mother is the only parent.
- spzb 7mo agoThe burden of proof falls on the person making the assertion. Why should anyone else have to do the work that he/she/they didn't bother with?
- giantg2 7mo ago"Why should anyone else have to do the work that he/she/they didn't bother with?" Because they are curious (consistent with the culture of this site). They would also be more likely to trust their own sources, I assume.
- spzb 7mo agoTrusting sources because they are your "own" is just asking for bias to be ingrained.
- giantg2 7mo agoYet it's well known that if you want someone to change their mind it's most likely to occur if they think it's their own idea/doing. You're more likely to argue with me than if you just read sources you found and independently came to the conclusion.
- giantg2 7mo agoNot the same person, but here's something. Just to note, the income portion mention might be lacking additional investigation as child support is typically not accounted for in income numbers. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-single-father-households-statistically-outperform-lisa-drew-ed-d-xge7e/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-single-father-households-...
- spzb 7mo ago[citation needed]
- yummybrainz 7mo agoApril Fool's?
- ap99 7mo agoThis is actually well known.
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoWhat the fuck? Leave the mother out of her own child's life? Because statistically there is a marginal difference, which may not even apply here, because population wide numbers aren't a good indicator for specific cases? Your approach is inhumane.