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> they're losing Iran war. What criteria are you using for this assessment?

• schmidtleonard 7mo ago
  Pool's closed.
• thejohnconway 7mo ago
  If we look at the stated goals (as inconsistent as they have been): Unconditional surrender -> nope Regime change via popular uprising -> nope Destruction or removal of enriched uranium -> nope Destruction of drones and ballistic missile capability -> nope Final goal of getting back to the pre-war state (which is admitting loss in itself): Reopen in the straight of Hormuz -> nope So no objectives have been achieved, and although you could argue they will be in the future, this seems increasingly unlikely in the short timeline the Trump admin has given themselves. It any of them were possible at all, which seems doubtful.
• tristor 7mo ago
  > What criteria are you using for this assessment? We lost the moment we started because we went on a whim and without a cohesive strategy. This was a stupid stupid thing to do, and the longer it goes on the more obvious it becomes that this administration has no idea what it is doing.