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it's not about the companies, what a myopic viewpoint every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented. we are talking millions of deaths for

by xvector 6mo ago

it's not about the companies, what a myopic viewpoint every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented. we are talking millions of deaths for, say, just a year's delay.

girvo 6mo ago
What a ridiculous, reductive and dangerously accelerationist viewpoint.
- xvector 6mo ago
  It's not accelerationist, it's just fact. Not saying we shouldn't be careful with AGI. But the glib tone of "who cares if these companies die?" is where one needs to consider the consequences of AGI not happening or being delayed.
  - Ntrails 6mo ago
    I struggle with the idea that AGI (which I don't think is coming via LLMs, but sidebar) will improve the outcomes of lives and not end up as a tool of privilege and control. Pitch me on this utopian outlook, because nothing about any of the Frontier companies points away from dystopia to me
  - JDups 6mo ago
    You can't call hypotheticals about AGI facts.
  - girvo 6mo ago
    It’s not a fact in the slightest.
catlifeonmars 6mo ago
- you are assuming that an AGI will prevent more deaths than it would cause - you are assuming that AGI is just around the corner and that scaling up language models is the path to get there - you can make this argument about basically anything (nuclear power, tuberculosis medication, free healthcare). I’d say the burden of proof is on you to back up your extraordinary claim with extraordinary evidence.
otabdeveloper4 6mo ago
> every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented Uhm, that's not what Hollywood told me. I trust the screenwriters of "Terminator" more than I trust your anonymous forum comment.
neya 6mo ago
> every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented Sure, that's what AGI would be used for /s In other news, we are not even close to AGI and even with the current experimental technology, frontier AI model companies are already fighting to help departments of war, which actually results in the most deaths. What makes you think AGI would be used for not leading to the same millions of deaths?
kotaKat 6mo ago
I thought we gave up on AGI and turned into making sex chatbots and simulated porn instead. Wasn't that what Sam was pushing for all along when he went all in on Sora and the erotic modes?

by xvector 6mo ago

it's not about the companies, what a myopic viewpoint every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented. we are talking millions of deaths for, say, just a year's delay.

girvo 6mo ago

What a ridiculous, reductive and dangerously accelerationist viewpoint.

xvector 6mo ago
It's not accelerationist, it's just fact. Not saying we shouldn't be careful with AGI. But the glib tone of "who cares if these companies die?" is where one needs to consider the consequences of AGI not happening or being delayed.
- Ntrails 6mo ago
  I struggle with the idea that AGI (which I don't think is coming via LLMs, but sidebar) will improve the outcomes of lives and not end up as a tool of privilege and control. Pitch me on this utopian outlook, because nothing about any of the Frontier companies points away from dystopia to me
- JDups 6mo ago
  You can't call hypotheticals about AGI facts.
- girvo 6mo ago
  It’s not a fact in the slightest.

catlifeonmars 6mo ago

- you are assuming that an AGI will prevent more deaths than it would cause - you are assuming that AGI is just around the corner and that scaling up language models is the path to get there - you can make this argument about basically anything (nuclear power, tuberculosis medication, free healthcare). I’d say the burden of proof is on you to back up your extraordinary claim with extraordinary evidence.

otabdeveloper4 6mo ago

> every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented Uhm, that's not what Hollywood told me. I trust the screenwriters of "Terminator" more than I trust your anonymous forum comment.

neya 6mo ago

> every delay to AGI results in deaths that AGI could have prevented Sure, that's what AGI would be used for /s In other news, we are not even close to AGI and even with the current experimental technology, frontier AI model companies are already fighting to help departments of war, which actually results in the most deaths. What makes you think AGI would be used for not leading to the same millions of deaths?

kotaKat 6mo ago

I thought we gave up on AGI and turned into making sex chatbots and simulated porn instead. Wasn't that what Sam was pushing for all along when he went all in on Sora and the erotic modes?