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> I would never do business with Google. All I use from them is search. That's it. Nothing else. Given that's their main business and they are likely to gravey

by eviks 7mo ago

> I would never do business with Google. All I use from them is search. That's it. Nothing else. Given that's their main business and they are likely to graveyard whatever domain penny business you've got burnt by anyway, you're still doing a lot of business with them

neonstatic 7mo ago
But it's the kind of business, where recourse is not needed
- eviks 7mo ago
  Do you not value relevance in your search results???
  - neonstatic 7mo ago
    Of course I do, my point was I don't need a way to email / call a human being at Google when something is wrong with a search result.
    - eviks 7mo ago
      Again, why not? Do you not want the results to have less seo garbage? Or not have AI hallucinate in your face blocking useful results? I don't get it. I mean, I understand that you don't have recourse now, but I don't understand not needing one given how important search is
      - __d 7mo ago
        One difference to something like email is that you can change search providers with minimal effort. There’s no server-side context to back up or migrate, no third parties involved: you just use a different URL.
      - Henchman21 7mo ago
        When you get bad results from a search engine, you refine the query. Maybe try a different search engine! You have options. When it's your personal email address you don't have options. You are at the mercy of said email provider. You can run that email yourself, sure, but that isn't for everyone. Does that explain the difference?
  - KetoManx64 7mo ago
    Yes I do, that's why I pay for Kagi instead of having ads injected into the top of my results page and a company who's business model is based on me clicking on ads instead of actually finding what I want.
robomartin 7mo ago
> Given that's their main business and they are likely to graveyard whatever domain penny business you've got burnt by anyway, you're still doing a lot of business with them That's a gross misinterpretation of what "doing business with" means.

by eviks 7mo ago

neonstatic 7mo ago

But it's the kind of business, where recourse is not needed

eviks 7mo ago
Do you not value relevance in your search results???
- neonstatic 7mo ago
  Of course I do, my point was I don't need a way to email / call a human being at Google when something is wrong with a search result.
  - eviks 7mo ago
    Again, why not? Do you not want the results to have less seo garbage? Or not have AI hallucinate in your face blocking useful results? I don't get it. I mean, I understand that you don't have recourse now, but I don't understand not needing one given how important search is
    - __d 7mo ago
      One difference to something like email is that you can change search providers with minimal effort. There’s no server-side context to back up or migrate, no third parties involved: you just use a different URL.
    - Henchman21 7mo ago
      When you get bad results from a search engine, you refine the query. Maybe try a different search engine! You have options. When it's your personal email address you don't have options. You are at the mercy of said email provider. You can run that email yourself, sure, but that isn't for everyone. Does that explain the difference?
- KetoManx64 7mo ago
  Yes I do, that's why I pay for Kagi instead of having ads injected into the top of my results page and a company who's business model is based on me clicking on ads instead of actually finding what I want.

robomartin 7mo ago

> Given that's their main business and they are likely to graveyard whatever domain penny business you've got burnt by anyway, you're still doing a lot of business with them That's a gross misinterpretation of what "doing business with" means.