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To the people criticizing the comment above, think of all the other illegal things trump is already doing. It's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of if he

To the people criticizing the comment above, think of all the other illegal things trump is already doing. It's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of if he will and who will stop him (nobody, so far)

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 6mo ago
Regardless, Iran sinking an aircraft carrier does not excuse Trump to nuke Iran and cancel elections. Your point is that he does not care about having a justification.
- shiroiuma 6mo ago
  There's no good excuse for countless bad and stupid things Trump has done, but he did them anyway and no one has bothered to stop him.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 6mo ago
    Yes, I agree. My point is primarily that it is incorrect to say that his actions have an excuse, especially the hypothetical action of launching the first offensive nuke since the two in August 1945. (Secondarily, stating that he has an excuse is the first step to excusing him.) Nuclear powers collectively agree, and have for decades: the only excuse for launching a nuke at your adversary is them doing it first. (As for elections, history has shown that there is no excuse for outright cancelling them; that is an autocratic ploy to become a despot.)
mothballed 6mo ago
I'm surprised he hasn't considered dropping The Bomb. No one will stop him, and it could actually garner a win.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 6mo ago
  This is a terrible idea. Assuming nothing bad happens (other than the mass death, of course), there would be shocked pikachu faces from half of Americans and then some, not to mention those in other nations. If something bad happens (edit: other than the initial mass death, of course), the faces would instead range anywhere from panicked to vaporized.
- jjkaczor 6mo ago
  Well... one wonders and speculates what exactly is meant by his statement of: "unleash hell"
  - nick238 6mo ago
    Ever play Doom (2016)? It's about renewable energy. Pesky little--very minor--side effect that it's extracted from Hell, and using it causes the denizens of Hell to spill over to our side. One would say they are "unleashed". By raising the price of oil so much, our dear leader is trying his level best to accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels.
- SaltyBackendGuy 6mo ago
  It depends on what you mean by "win".
- TheOtherHobbes 6mo ago
  He has considered it. He's a psychopathic fantasist. No one sane would have started this war. But the consequences would be catastrophic. Not least that Russia would very likely nuke Ukraine to try to force a surrender. And France would have to decide whether to respond in kind. Trump would not - of course - nuke Russia. Likely not even if Russia launched a first strike. And it's unlikely Iran would surrender, because Iran has set itself up as a patchwork of semi-independent forces. The immediate response would be a mass missile strike on desalination plants and oil installations in Israel and the Arab states. The absolute best outcome would be plumes of smoke all over the Middle East. The worst outcome would be all of the existing minor nuclear nations - North Korea, India, Pakistan, Israel - deciding the safety was off, and why not?
  - jcgrillo 6mo ago
    This is the guy that ignored warnings that Iran would respond by closing the Strait of Hormuz. He was briefed on exactly this scenario and decided he knew better. That is to say he's been proved capable of making incredibly bad decisions, it's just a matter of who speaks to him directly before. One of these days it might be the wrong person.
    - Foobar8568 6mo ago
      Considering that Trump models are Hitler and Putin, how surprising...
    - MyHonestOpinon 6mo ago
      Didn't he famously stated that he knows more than his generals ?
- mcswell 6mo ago
  I hope somebody would stop him. Using nukes in a war is just too bonkers to contemplate. Sure they would be small, but the road to big starts with small.
  - jacquesm 6mo ago
    Unfortunately there are more than enough idiots in the current line of command.
- jacquesm 6mo ago
  > and it could actually garner a win No, it could not. It would be a massive loss. For those that lose their lives, for the rest of the world.
- testing22321 6mo ago
  He has openly talked about doing so
- csomar 6mo ago
  Dropping the bomb will be a massive loss for the US as it’ll legitimatize nuclear warfare. Right out of the attack, the US ceases being the first firepower and becomes equal to the rest of the nuclear ones. Next Russia takes Ukraine in a week and rich countries will buy nukes from North Korea and Pakistan.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 6mo ago

Regardless, Iran sinking an aircraft carrier does not excuse Trump to nuke Iran and cancel elections. Your point is that he does not care about having a justification.

shiroiuma 6mo ago
There's no good excuse for countless bad and stupid things Trump has done, but he did them anyway and no one has bothered to stop him.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 6mo ago
  Yes, I agree. My point is primarily that it is incorrect to say that his actions have an excuse, especially the hypothetical action of launching the first offensive nuke since the two in August 1945. (Secondarily, stating that he has an excuse is the first step to excusing him.) Nuclear powers collectively agree, and have for decades: the only excuse for launching a nuke at your adversary is them doing it first. (As for elections, history has shown that there is no excuse for outright cancelling them; that is an autocratic ploy to become a despot.)

mothballed 6mo ago

I'm surprised he hasn't considered dropping The Bomb. No one will stop him, and it could actually garner a win.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 6mo ago
This is a terrible idea. Assuming nothing bad happens (other than the mass death, of course), there would be shocked pikachu faces from half of Americans and then some, not to mention those in other nations. If something bad happens (edit: other than the initial mass death, of course), the faces would instead range anywhere from panicked to vaporized.
jjkaczor 6mo ago
Well... one wonders and speculates what exactly is meant by his statement of: "unleash hell"
- nick238 6mo ago
  Ever play Doom (2016)? It's about renewable energy. Pesky little--very minor--side effect that it's extracted from Hell, and using it causes the denizens of Hell to spill over to our side. One would say they are "unleashed". By raising the price of oil so much, our dear leader is trying his level best to accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels.
SaltyBackendGuy 6mo ago
It depends on what you mean by "win".
TheOtherHobbes 6mo ago
He has considered it. He's a psychopathic fantasist. No one sane would have started this war. But the consequences would be catastrophic. Not least that Russia would very likely nuke Ukraine to try to force a surrender. And France would have to decide whether to respond in kind. Trump would not - of course - nuke Russia. Likely not even if Russia launched a first strike. And it's unlikely Iran would surrender, because Iran has set itself up as a patchwork of semi-independent forces. The immediate response would be a mass missile strike on desalination plants and oil installations in Israel and the Arab states. The absolute best outcome would be plumes of smoke all over the Middle East. The worst outcome would be all of the existing minor nuclear nations - North Korea, India, Pakistan, Israel - deciding the safety was off, and why not?
- jcgrillo 6mo ago
  This is the guy that ignored warnings that Iran would respond by closing the Strait of Hormuz. He was briefed on exactly this scenario and decided he knew better. That is to say he's been proved capable of making incredibly bad decisions, it's just a matter of who speaks to him directly before. One of these days it might be the wrong person.
  - Foobar8568 6mo ago
    Considering that Trump models are Hitler and Putin, how surprising...
  - MyHonestOpinon 6mo ago
    Didn't he famously stated that he knows more than his generals ?
mcswell 6mo ago
I hope somebody would stop him. Using nukes in a war is just too bonkers to contemplate. Sure they would be small, but the road to big starts with small.
- jacquesm 6mo ago
  Unfortunately there are more than enough idiots in the current line of command.
jacquesm 6mo ago
> and it could actually garner a win No, it could not. It would be a massive loss. For those that lose their lives, for the rest of the world.
testing22321 6mo ago
He has openly talked about doing so
csomar 6mo ago
Dropping the bomb will be a massive loss for the US as it’ll legitimatize nuclear warfare. Right out of the attack, the US ceases being the first firepower and becomes equal to the rest of the nuclear ones. Next Russia takes Ukraine in a week and rich countries will buy nukes from North Korea and Pakistan.