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> Still, Google Ventures lacks superstar companies such as microblogging service Twitter or online bulletin-board company Pinterest. Neither of those companies

by debacle 14y ago

> Still, Google Ventures lacks superstar companies such as microblogging service Twitter or online bulletin-board company Pinterest. Neither of those companies are on the road to profitability, IIRC, though Pinterest would of course have a much easier time of it.

atomical 14y ago
Is Twitter running out of money?
- debacle 14y ago
  I don't know what their financials look like, but a company with 100 million but no revenue is only worth 100 million.
  - jonknee 14y ago
    Twitter has revenue. Though either way I think Instagram would like to disagree with your valuation statement.
    - debacle 14y ago
      Instagram was a tactical pre-IPO aquisition to stave off uncertainty. Facebook likely made their money back in the IPO deal, and Instagram's valuation has fallen drastically with Facebook's stock price adjustment.
      - davidu 14y ago
        None of your points has anything to do with "worth." Worth as we are using it is almost universally defined as the price an arms-length buyer is willing to pay for the total sum of an entity. So Twitter is worth far more than $100mm. It's currently worth billions of dollars. Tomorrow, that could all come crashing down, but today, it's a fact. What you suggest is not anything remotely associated with fact. Deciding a company is worth whatever amount of cash they have on hand, or have raised (you weren't clear on which metric you got your worth basis from) is really a naive view of valuation. And now I'm sure I'll get flamed off News.YC like I always do.
fraserharris 14y ago
Not on the road to profitability? Twitter had an estimated $140m revenue in 2010 [1], predicted to be $1b by 2014 [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter [2] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-01/twitter-said-to-expect-1-billion-in-sales-in-2014-on-ad-growth.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-01/twitter-said-to-exp...

by debacle 14y ago

atomical 14y ago

Is Twitter running out of money?

debacle 14y ago
I don't know what their financials look like, but a company with 100 million but no revenue is only worth 100 million.
- jonknee 14y ago
  Twitter has revenue. Though either way I think Instagram would like to disagree with your valuation statement.
  - debacle 14y ago
    Instagram was a tactical pre-IPO aquisition to stave off uncertainty. Facebook likely made their money back in the IPO deal, and Instagram's valuation has fallen drastically with Facebook's stock price adjustment.
    - davidu 14y ago
      None of your points has anything to do with "worth." Worth as we are using it is almost universally defined as the price an arms-length buyer is willing to pay for the total sum of an entity. So Twitter is worth far more than $100mm. It's currently worth billions of dollars. Tomorrow, that could all come crashing down, but today, it's a fact. What you suggest is not anything remotely associated with fact. Deciding a company is worth whatever amount of cash they have on hand, or have raised (you weren't clear on which metric you got your worth basis from) is really a naive view of valuation. And now I'm sure I'll get flamed off News.YC like I always do.

fraserharris 14y ago

Not on the road to profitability? Twitter had an estimated $140m revenue in 2010 [1], predicted to be $1b by 2014 [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter [2] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-01/twitter-said-to-expect-1-billion-in-sales-in-2014-on-ad-growth.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-01/twitter-said-to-exp...