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What this current administration is doing speaks much more of a lack of strategy than what the Khans did in the 13th century. Not having any sort of counterpla
by Quarrelsome 6mo ago
What this current administration is doing speaks much more of a lack of strategy than what the Khans did in the 13th century.
Not having any sort of counterplay to Iran's one big move (the blocking of the straight), in a nation of some of the brighest minds on the planet, speaks volumes of how advisors are clearly not being listened to. The powers of the once mighty Republic have seemingly been vested in the hands of a bunch of incompetent nepo babies.
- randomNumber7 6mo ago> in a nation of some of the brighest minds on the planet You mean the people who voted for trump or those who voted for the democrats? Are there some causal reasons you think americans are smarter than people in other countries?
- Quarrelsome 6mo ago> You mean the people who voted for trump or those who voted for the democrats? I'm not talking about plebs, I'm talking about people who know their shit and work at government level. We could just look at the invention of the past century and pluck out relevant events like the moon landing, electronic computer, transistor or ARPANET. Clearly there are smart people living in that nation. They have the talent to draw from to get good advice about stuff like: what Iran's first response might be to an aerial assault. > Are there some causal reasons you think americans are smarter than people in other countries? I never said that. I said America is home to SOME of the brightest minds in the world. That sentence does not apportion all the brightest minds to that nation. What you read is clearly something different from what I wrote. Do you have a chip on your shoulder?
- randomNumber7 6mo agoYour argument was that you could use your bright minds to win against the iranians. That implies they are brighter than the iranians. I think america clearly had better opportunities for bright people in the past. Maybe some moved also there so the proportion is a little higher than in other places.
- Quarrelsome 6mo agothat wasn't my argument. My argument is that the US has enough intelligent people to wargame what would happen in response to their initial strikes on Iran. That they seemingly have no available counter-play to the blocking of the straight of hormuz implies that they have dismissed any experts from the decision making process and are just winging it. Because... why would you start a war when you're weak to your opponent's first obvious countermove? So yea, you misread that to assume that I was making some quasi-racist statement about Iran. So my question to you, is why do you think you made that intentional misinterpretation?
- randomNumber7 6mo agoSorry. It's currently late were I live. I agree that what the US did seems like they didn't ask anyone with expertise and brain to make a plan. I think I filtered that out since I don't wonder about such things anymore. I live in Germany and what our government did in the last decades was so beyond stupid (like blowing up our nuclear power plants and going out of coal at the same time) that I try to ignore these kinds of things.
- thelastgallon 6mo ago> the US has enough intelligent people 'intelligent', yes, big scary performative navy/gear, very very costly, here take most of the tax dollars. This is whats going on since WW2, where are these intelligent people who couldn't understand this?
- anon84873628 6mo agoWe don't have to infer that they dismissed the experts. It is a documented fact. Exactly one year ago, Laura Loomer presented Trump with a "traitor" list, all of whom were fired. That included members of the National Security Council, including director for Iran, Nate Swanson. He has since been writing articles staying exactly what would happen in the event of a conflict.
- qup 6mo agoIQ testing? Inbreeding as a cultural norm? Not smarter than the Japanese.
- johnnyanmac 6mo agoThere are dumb democrats and smart republicans. We don't have all the intelligence but we do have many institutions to promote such talent. As well as formerly having policy which let other bright minds immigrate into the US.
- babypuncher 6mo ago> a nation of some of the brighest minds on the planet The brightest minds we had working in government have all quit or been fired in the last year.
- throwaway173738 6mo agoTo wit: Hegseth immediately demanded the loyalty or resignation of the entire officer corps upon taking office. Anyone who would’ve been the voice of reason likely resigned a year ago.
- shake_head_pig2 6mo ago[dead]
- protocolture 6mo ago>in a nation of some of the brighest minds on the planet Found the assumption that caused the issue.
- Quarrelsome 6mo agoIts not a false assumption. The world today is full of innovative products built with American capital and mostly American minds. If Americans want to do something then they have an rich pool of talent to do it well. Sure on average, the population of the US is stupid, but that's true of everywhere.
- duped 6mo agoBright minds in America aren't working for Trump.
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- RealityVoid 6mo agoI think this works well with his original point.
- isoprophlex 6mo agoJust because you sold your soul to an economic superspreader meme that allows your products and inventions to percolate with the rapidity of an influenza-herpes-ebola hybrid doesnt mean that the minds behind it are brighter than the rest of the world.
- Quarrelsome 6mo agoI never said that. You're reading what you wanted to hear, not what i wrote. Second time someone has intentionally misread it that wrong way.
- data_maan 6mo ago