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> If I found a group of terrorist sympathizers invading my property and dancing on it I wouldn't be very empathetic to them But it would be your choice to comm

> If I found a group of terrorist sympathizers invading my property and dancing on it I wouldn't be very empathetic to them But it would be your choice to commit terrorism back at them. Plenty of people across history have chosen both ways. It tends to go much better for one group over the other.

spaghetdefects 8mo ago
I don't think that's "terrorism" as much as it is self defense. The Haitian Slave Revolt and Indigenous American Pueblo Revolts come to mind as analogous military actions that produced positive results.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > don't think that's "terrorism" as much as it is self defense Everyone says this. If October 7 had limited itself to military targets, this would have been different. If current polling showed Gazans pushing for only military retaliation, I think things would be different. Everyone has the right to self defense. But everyone also gets judged by how they do it. > Haitian Slave Revolt Claimed territory with a plan for maneouvre. Not particularly comparable outside minor tactical elements. > Indigenous American Pueblo Revolts come to mind This is a good analogy. I’ll have to read up on it more. To wit, however, they eventually accepted the new—awful, unfair and racist, I may add, but survivable and superior to the alternative of endless war—status quo.
  - spaghetdefects 8mo ago
    > This is a good analogy. I’ll have to read up on it more. To wit, however, they eventually accepted the new—awful, unfair and racist, I may add, but survivable and superior to the alternative of endless war—status quo. Well the Spanish returned and ultimately subjugated them but it's considered the reason that the South West was able to retain its indigenous culture and language to a degree not seen elsewhere. Mind you this was 1680, which kind of brings into perspective how barbaric the Zionists have been to essentially recreate one of the greatest crimes in human history hundreds of years later, with a supposed framework of human rights that had developed since then.

spaghetdefects 8mo ago

I don't think that's "terrorism" as much as it is self defense. The Haitian Slave Revolt and Indigenous American Pueblo Revolts come to mind as analogous military actions that produced positive results.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> don't think that's "terrorism" as much as it is self defense Everyone says this. If October 7 had limited itself to military targets, this would have been different. If current polling showed Gazans pushing for only military retaliation, I think things would be different. Everyone has the right to self defense. But everyone also gets judged by how they do it. > Haitian Slave Revolt Claimed territory with a plan for maneouvre. Not particularly comparable outside minor tactical elements. > Indigenous American Pueblo Revolts come to mind This is a good analogy. I’ll have to read up on it more. To wit, however, they eventually accepted the new—awful, unfair and racist, I may add, but survivable and superior to the alternative of endless war—status quo.
- spaghetdefects 8mo ago
  > This is a good analogy. I’ll have to read up on it more. To wit, however, they eventually accepted the new—awful, unfair and racist, I may add, but survivable and superior to the alternative of endless war—status quo. Well the Spanish returned and ultimately subjugated them but it's considered the reason that the South West was able to retain its indigenous culture and language to a degree not seen elsewhere. Mind you this was 1680, which kind of brings into perspective how barbaric the Zionists have been to essentially recreate one of the greatest crimes in human history hundreds of years later, with a supposed framework of human rights that had developed since then.