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> This is just virtue signaling to Iran in the hopes their cargo ships don't get targeted, or to mitigate future tolls. I don't think very many leaders think l

> This is just virtue signaling to Iran in the hopes their cargo ships don't get targeted, or to mitigate future tolls. I don't think very many leaders think like that. Iran can be bought off with diplomatic ties and thawing of relationships. This is either a decision that will play well to home, or a "fuck off donnie" for bad mouthing them.

ceejayoz 7mo ago
> I don't think very many leaders think like that. Iran's missile attack on Diego Garcia (unexpectedly long range, more than we thought they had functional) puts Rome in missile range. They're definitely thinking about that right now.
- KaiserPro 7mo ago
  most of the EU were always in range. Thats how ballistic missiles work. Hence why we had the nuclear deal that trump binned. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/03/iran-tests-long-range-missiles https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/03/iran-tests-lon... I know that hegseth has obliterated the planning and intelligence capability of the us military, but the news has less excuse.
  - ceejayoz 7mo ago
    > Thats how ballistic missiles work. No; there are plenty of short and intermediate range ballistic missiles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Strike_Missile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Strike_Missile has a public max range of ~300 miles, for example. Not every BM is an ICBM. Your link cites a max of 1,200 miles and says "hitting Israel and US bases in the region". Diego Garcia almost doubles that number, which places London in range when it previously wasn't. https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/21/politics/iran-missiles-diego-garcia https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/21/politics/iran-missiles-diego-... > While the attack was unsuccessful, it shows that Iran may not be adhering its self-imposed missile range limit of 2,000 kilometers, raising concerns about whether Tehran could hit US and European interests farther away than previously thought.
    - KaiserPro 7mo ago
      that was an article from _2012_ which is even before ~7 generation of Shahed drone (but after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahed_171_Simorgh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahed_171_Simorgh which was cloned from a GPS spoofed interception of a US drone) Iran's capabilities have been well known and documented. After all, Isreal and Saudi Arabia have been pushing the US to bomb iran at various stages in the last 30 years. The words "self imposed" is the real kicker here. Its not like those missiles have unknown capabilities.
      - ceejayoz 7mo ago
        Shaheds and ballistic missiles present very different threat profiles to places like London. They are hardly comparable. Quite a few governments seemed surprised by the Diego Garcia strike.

ceejayoz 7mo ago

> I don't think very many leaders think like that. Iran's missile attack on Diego Garcia (unexpectedly long range, more than we thought they had functional) puts Rome in missile range. They're definitely thinking about that right now.

KaiserPro 7mo ago
most of the EU were always in range. Thats how ballistic missiles work. Hence why we had the nuclear deal that trump binned. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/03/iran-tests-long-range-missiles https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/03/iran-tests-lon... I know that hegseth has obliterated the planning and intelligence capability of the us military, but the news has less excuse.
- ceejayoz 7mo ago
  > Thats how ballistic missiles work. No; there are plenty of short and intermediate range ballistic missiles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Strike_Missile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Strike_Missile has a public max range of ~300 miles, for example. Not every BM is an ICBM. Your link cites a max of 1,200 miles and says "hitting Israel and US bases in the region". Diego Garcia almost doubles that number, which places London in range when it previously wasn't. https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/21/politics/iran-missiles-diego-garcia https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/21/politics/iran-missiles-diego-... > While the attack was unsuccessful, it shows that Iran may not be adhering its self-imposed missile range limit of 2,000 kilometers, raising concerns about whether Tehran could hit US and European interests farther away than previously thought.
  - KaiserPro 7mo ago
    that was an article from _2012_ which is even before ~7 generation of Shahed drone (but after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahed_171_Simorgh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahed_171_Simorgh which was cloned from a GPS spoofed interception of a US drone) Iran's capabilities have been well known and documented. After all, Isreal and Saudi Arabia have been pushing the US to bomb iran at various stages in the last 30 years. The words "self imposed" is the real kicker here. Its not like those missiles have unknown capabilities.
    - ceejayoz 7mo ago
      Shaheds and ballistic missiles present very different threat profiles to places like London. They are hardly comparable. Quite a few governments seemed surprised by the Diego Garcia strike.