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> A job today isn’t (and shouldn’t be) any guarantee of a job tomorrow. Also relationships, kids and stability. Spend all your life in perpetual anxiety, rent

> A job today isn’t (and shouldn’t be) any guarantee of a job tomorrow. Also relationships, kids and stability. Spend all your life in perpetual anxiety, rent all your life, you will own nothing and be happy! Also, here’s a bowl of insect protein while we’re at it.

sneak 7mo ago
You can quit your relationships at any time, too. That's a fundamental tenet of our society - consent to an interaction between free people can be withdrawn at any moment for any reason. That's not perpetual anxiety - that's the way things work today, and the way things have worked for generations. Anyone pretending otherwise is fooling themselves with lies.
- wiseowise 7mo ago
  Before I continue with this thread, how old are you? And have you ever been in a long time relationship with someone? Do you own a house? Have kids?
  - sneak 7mo ago
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HomeDeLaPot 7mo ago
You want the government to force employers to provide a social safety net rather than the government providing it directly? The problem isn't that people can be fired, it's that their food, housing, and medical care are all dependent on or provided through their employer.
- wiseowise 7mo ago
  > A job today isn’t (*and shouldn’t be*) any guarantee of a job tomorrow. This is nonsense and shouldn’t be normalized.
  - randomNumber7 7mo ago
    In germany you have the opposite and it is also nonsense. You have to work with people that do literally nothing (usefull to the goal of the company) and they can't be fired. Companies are afraid to hire. Young people only get short therm contracts. If a company needs to cut jobs it has to keep employees with children over the others. What society will be more productive?
    - wiseowise 7mo ago
      What makes you think that productivity is the most important goal? I’ll take Germany way over Silicon Valley bullshit any time of the day.
      - randomNumber7 7mo ago
        You have actually more to give if you are more productive. Germany acts like money grows on trees. Reality will come and hit hard.
        wiseowise 7mo ago
        > Reality will come and hit hard. Like it hit Block and Oracle workers already?
        randomNumber7 7mo ago
        A bit harder unfotunately. Less than 20 million people in germany pay more taxes than they get money from the government (if you consider state employees as getting money from the government). With a population of over 80 million. Think about what happens if that is not financially viable anymore.
      - sneak 7mo ago
        The ability to fire people without notice is not Silicon Valley bullshit - it is how the labor market works in almost all places in the entire world. It is ridiculous to think that either party to an employment relationship should be forced to participate longer than they wish to.

sneak 7mo ago

You can quit your relationships at any time, too. That's a fundamental tenet of our society - consent to an interaction between free people can be withdrawn at any moment for any reason. That's not perpetual anxiety - that's the way things work today, and the way things have worked for generations. Anyone pretending otherwise is fooling themselves with lies.

wiseowise 7mo ago
Before I continue with this thread, how old are you? And have you ever been in a long time relationship with someone? Do you own a house? Have kids?
- sneak 7mo ago
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HomeDeLaPot 7mo ago

You want the government to force employers to provide a social safety net rather than the government providing it directly? The problem isn't that people can be fired, it's that their food, housing, and medical care are all dependent on or provided through their employer.

wiseowise 7mo ago
> A job today isn’t (*and shouldn’t be*) any guarantee of a job tomorrow. This is nonsense and shouldn’t be normalized.
- randomNumber7 7mo ago
  In germany you have the opposite and it is also nonsense. You have to work with people that do literally nothing (usefull to the goal of the company) and they can't be fired. Companies are afraid to hire. Young people only get short therm contracts. If a company needs to cut jobs it has to keep employees with children over the others. What society will be more productive?
  - wiseowise 7mo ago
    What makes you think that productivity is the most important goal? I’ll take Germany way over Silicon Valley bullshit any time of the day.
    - randomNumber7 7mo ago
      You have actually more to give if you are more productive. Germany acts like money grows on trees. Reality will come and hit hard.
      - wiseowise 7mo ago
        > Reality will come and hit hard. Like it hit Block and Oracle workers already?
        randomNumber7 7mo ago
        A bit harder unfotunately. Less than 20 million people in germany pay more taxes than they get money from the government (if you consider state employees as getting money from the government). With a population of over 80 million. Think about what happens if that is not financially viable anymore.
    - sneak 7mo ago
      The ability to fire people without notice is not Silicon Valley bullshit - it is how the labor market works in almost all places in the entire world. It is ridiculous to think that either party to an employment relationship should be forced to participate longer than they wish to.