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> completely at odds with the facts Asserted without evidence. The argument makes perfect sense to me. What part of it do you think is false?

• _delirium 14y ago
  Isn't the person making a very strong causal claim the one in need of evidence? If someone's claiming that affirmative action caused black poverty, then I would expect some good data to back up that claim. Merely asserting it is not an "argument".
  • bdunbar 14y ago
    Why not put it back on the poster who asserted without evidence that affirmative action will cure "gang violence, intense poverty, substance abuse, neglect, and trauma"? I will allow that it could. But we've had this deal in place for fifty years. If you've got a program running, and the problems keep getting worse .. maybe it's time to check one's assumptions. At any rate - I'll go grubbing around for the facts. Later tonight. Now I've got lunch to eat and work to be done. I've got a tax bill to pay.
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