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I think literally everyone could agree CGI has been detrimental to the quality of films.

by gunsle 6mo ago

sanex 6mo ago
Project Hail Mary is a great example of not relying on CGI.
xnorswap 6mo ago
Not just in the obvious ways either, even good CGI has been detrimental to the film (and TV) making process. I was watching some behind the scenes footage from something recently, and the thing that struck me most was just how they wouldn't bother with the location shoot now and just green-screen it all for the convenience. Even good CGI is changing not just how films are made, but what kinds of films get shot and what kind of stories get told. Regardless of the quality of the output, there's a creativeness in film-making that is lost as CGI gets better and cheaper to do.
- andrekandre 6mo ago
  it may be an unpopular opinion but i feel like that watching any of the marvel movies... its like its just a showcase for green screens and ridiculous rubber-band acrobatics cgi everywhere... that kind if stuff might work in anime or cartoons, but live action just looks ridiculous to me for the most part.
Levitz 6mo ago
"Literally everyone" can't even agree on whether Polio is bad. I myself would disagree that CGI itself is a bad thing.
NitpickLawyer 6mo ago
Anecdata-- from me. I think cgi can be a net positive.
delecti 6mo ago
I could maybe agree in the sense of "has had detrimental effects", but certainly not in the sense of "net detrimental".
CamperBob2 6mo ago
90% of the time, you wouldn't know CGI if you saw it. That's the 'good' CGI. Same thing is true of AI output.
- runarberg 6mo ago
  Not the same. The more effort you put into CGI the more invisible it becomes. But you can’t prompt your way out of hallucinations and other AI artifacts. AI is a completely different technology from CGI. There is no equivalence between them.
  - CamperBob2 6mo ago
    But you can’t prompt your way out of hallucinations and other AI artifacts That's not the case, and hasn't been for some time, but it sounds like your mind's made up.
    - jamiek88 6mo ago
      Hallucinations have been solved?! That’s great news! Must have missed that.
      - CamperBob2 6mo ago
        Hallucinations have been solved?! Apparently not, because no one but you implied that they had been. There are prompting strategies that improve the odds greatly, but like the GGP, you've made up your mind, so it's a waste of time to argue otherwise.
        andrekandre 6mo ago
        i think they are referring to statements that they have "solved" hallucinations and it wont be a problem anymore (which it obviously isn't yet anyways) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44779198 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44779198

I think literally everyone could agree CGI has been detrimental to the quality of films.

by gunsle 6mo ago

I think literally everyone could agree CGI has been detrimental to the quality of films.

sanex 6mo ago

Project Hail Mary is a great example of not relying on CGI.

xnorswap 6mo ago

Not just in the obvious ways either, even good CGI has been detrimental to the film (and TV) making process. I was watching some behind the scenes footage from something recently, and the thing that struck me most was just how they wouldn't bother with the location shoot now and just green-screen it all for the convenience. Even good CGI is changing not just how films are made, but what kinds of films get shot and what kind of stories get told. Regardless of the quality of the output, there's a creativeness in film-making that is lost as CGI gets better and cheaper to do.

andrekandre 6mo ago
it may be an unpopular opinion but i feel like that watching any of the marvel movies... its like its just a showcase for green screens and ridiculous rubber-band acrobatics cgi everywhere... that kind if stuff might work in anime or cartoons, but live action just looks ridiculous to me for the most part.

Levitz 6mo ago

"Literally everyone" can't even agree on whether Polio is bad. I myself would disagree that CGI itself is a bad thing.

NitpickLawyer 6mo ago

Anecdata-- from me. I think cgi can be a net positive.

delecti 6mo ago

I could maybe agree in the sense of "has had detrimental effects", but certainly not in the sense of "net detrimental".

CamperBob2 6mo ago

90% of the time, you wouldn't know CGI if you saw it. That's the 'good' CGI. Same thing is true of AI output.

runarberg 6mo ago
Not the same. The more effort you put into CGI the more invisible it becomes. But you can’t prompt your way out of hallucinations and other AI artifacts. AI is a completely different technology from CGI. There is no equivalence between them.
- CamperBob2 6mo ago
  But you can’t prompt your way out of hallucinations and other AI artifacts That's not the case, and hasn't been for some time, but it sounds like your mind's made up.
  - jamiek88 6mo ago
    Hallucinations have been solved?! That’s great news! Must have missed that.
    - CamperBob2 6mo ago
      Hallucinations have been solved?! Apparently not, because no one but you implied that they had been. There are prompting strategies that improve the odds greatly, but like the GGP, you've made up your mind, so it's a waste of time to argue otherwise.
      - andrekandre 6mo ago
        i think they are referring to statements that they have "solved" hallucinations and it wont be a problem anymore (which it obviously isn't yet anyways) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44779198 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44779198