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Same. If Google does this, my next phone will be an iPhone. Freedom is the only reason to put up with Android's shittiness. If they turn it into a walled garden

Same. If Google does this, my next phone will be an iPhone. Freedom is the only reason to put up with Android's shittiness. If they turn it into a walled garden, then we'll choose the better kept garden and it sure as hell isn't Google's.

foxes 7mo ago
What? So you dont value freedom at all? Theres other alternatives too.. graphene, lineage
- m4rtink 7mo ago
  Sailfish OS - they even run a device preorder right now.
  - anonzzzies 7mo ago
    But is it open? Seems not; parts are closed so is that not just more of the same?
    - fsflover 7mo ago
      postmarketOS, Mobian, PureOS are open.
    - m4rtink 7mo ago
      Yeah, some bits (parts of the GUI & some of the default apps) are still closed. But I think there is a good chance they will finally open those now - never really made any sense to keep them closed and preventing the community from contributing. Rumors had it it was due to non-cooperative investors. Not Jolla is finally independent again, so at least in theory they can finally do the right thing. :)
- matheusmoreira 7mo ago
  GrapheneOS is Android's last hope. They're making great progress with deals with smartphone manufacturers. However, the threat of remote attestation looms eternal. I have essential apps that I cannot afford to lose and if they refuse to work on a non-Google phone the usefulness of GrapheneOS is severely degraded.
  - fc417fc802 7mo ago
    If attestation ever became ubiquitous the difference between iOS and Android would cease to exist for me. I'd need a black box that lived in a desk drawer for interfacing with specific services and otherwise I'd cart around a camera in my pocket that happened to double as a linux tablet.
- linuxmobile 7mo ago
  No, the solution is having a linux micro-computer. You buy an iPhone shitphone to do banking and whatnot, and never touch it, then just do everything you need off a retroconsole since it runs literally 120% of the other apps a phone would.

foxes 7mo ago

What? So you dont value freedom at all? Theres other alternatives too.. graphene, lineage

m4rtink 7mo ago
Sailfish OS - they even run a device preorder right now.
- anonzzzies 7mo ago
  But is it open? Seems not; parts are closed so is that not just more of the same?
  - fsflover 7mo ago
    postmarketOS, Mobian, PureOS are open.
  - m4rtink 7mo ago
    Yeah, some bits (parts of the GUI & some of the default apps) are still closed. But I think there is a good chance they will finally open those now - never really made any sense to keep them closed and preventing the community from contributing. Rumors had it it was due to non-cooperative investors. Not Jolla is finally independent again, so at least in theory they can finally do the right thing. :)
matheusmoreira 7mo ago
GrapheneOS is Android's last hope. They're making great progress with deals with smartphone manufacturers. However, the threat of remote attestation looms eternal. I have essential apps that I cannot afford to lose and if they refuse to work on a non-Google phone the usefulness of GrapheneOS is severely degraded.
- fc417fc802 7mo ago
  If attestation ever became ubiquitous the difference between iOS and Android would cease to exist for me. I'd need a black box that lived in a desk drawer for interfacing with specific services and otherwise I'd cart around a camera in my pocket that happened to double as a linux tablet.
linuxmobile 7mo ago
No, the solution is having a linux micro-computer. You buy an iPhone shitphone to do banking and whatnot, and never touch it, then just do everything you need off a retroconsole since it runs literally 120% of the other apps a phone would.