3 ms·

Anthropic is not building good will as a consumer brand. They've got the best product right now but there's a spring charging behind me ready to launch me into

Anthropic is not building good will as a consumer brand. They've got the best product right now but there's a spring charging behind me ready to launch me into OpenCode as soon as the time is right.

kylecazar 7mo ago
Would you use Opus if you switched to OpenCode?
- teaearlgraycold 7mo ago
  I'd like to use Opus with OpenCode right now to combine the best TUI agent app with the best LLM. But my understanding is Anthropic will nuke me from orbit if I try that.
  - corford 7mo ago
    OpenCode with a Copilot Business sub and Opus 4.6 as the model works well
    - teaearlgraycold 7mo ago
      I'm looking at their plans (https://github.com/features/copilot/plans https://github.com/features/copilot/plans) it seems like the limits might be pretty low, even with the Pro+ plan which is 2x the cost of Claude Pro. It seems like Claude Pro might be 10-20x the Opus tokens for only twice the price.
      - corford 7mo ago
        Copilot has a totally different billing model. It's request based rather than token based. Counter-intuitively, in our case at least, it is way cheaper than token based pricing. One request can sometimes consume 2-4 million tokens but is billed as a single request (or it's multiplier if using a premium model like opus).
  - joecot 7mo ago
    You can use Opus with OpenCode anytime you want, just not with the Claude plan. You can use it via API with any provider, including Anthropic's API. You can use it with Github Copilot's plan. The only thing you can't do without getting banned is use OpenCode with one of Claude's plans.
    - nurettin 7mo ago
      I keep seeing this "you can use the inconvenient and unpredictably costly way all you want" pedantic kneejerk response so often lately. It's like saying well humans can fly with a paraglider. It is correct and useless. Most here won't have cash to burn with unbounded opus api usage.
      - joecot 7mo ago
        If you want to use Opus with a different coding harness along with a coding plan, you can use Github CoPilot. It even has built in authentication with OpenCode.

Anthropic is not building good will as a consumer brand. They've got the best product right now but there's a spring charging behind me ready to launch me into OpenCode as soon as the time is right.

kylecazar 7mo ago

Would you use Opus if you switched to OpenCode?

teaearlgraycold 7mo ago
I'd like to use Opus with OpenCode right now to combine the best TUI agent app with the best LLM. But my understanding is Anthropic will nuke me from orbit if I try that.
- corford 7mo ago
  OpenCode with a Copilot Business sub and Opus 4.6 as the model works well
  - teaearlgraycold 7mo ago
    I'm looking at their plans (https://github.com/features/copilot/plans https://github.com/features/copilot/plans) it seems like the limits might be pretty low, even with the Pro+ plan which is 2x the cost of Claude Pro. It seems like Claude Pro might be 10-20x the Opus tokens for only twice the price.
    - corford 7mo ago
      Copilot has a totally different billing model. It's request based rather than token based. Counter-intuitively, in our case at least, it is way cheaper than token based pricing. One request can sometimes consume 2-4 million tokens but is billed as a single request (or it's multiplier if using a premium model like opus).
- joecot 7mo ago
  You can use Opus with OpenCode anytime you want, just not with the Claude plan. You can use it via API with any provider, including Anthropic's API. You can use it with Github Copilot's plan. The only thing you can't do without getting banned is use OpenCode with one of Claude's plans.
  - nurettin 7mo ago
    I keep seeing this "you can use the inconvenient and unpredictably costly way all you want" pedantic kneejerk response so often lately. It's like saying well humans can fly with a paraglider. It is correct and useless. Most here won't have cash to burn with unbounded opus api usage.
    - joecot 7mo ago
      If you want to use Opus with a different coding harness along with a coding plan, you can use Github CoPilot. It even has built in authentication with OpenCode.