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Woman who had sex with identical twins told it is 'not possible' to identify dad
- pseudocoup 7mo agoFrom reading it appears all parties are invested in the outcome of children. So this becomes interesting for other reasons. What is the current state of the art in this type of testing? Why is a definitive result too far off but also too expensive?
- muskstinks 7mo agoYou need to find a genome change if it exists which requires whole genome sequencing. so its a money question and doesn't guarantee a result
- giantg2 7mo agoAnd even if a genome change exists, it may not show up in the offspring depending on which version of gamete they're derived from.
- GeekyBear 7mo agoWith identical twins, the genome is identical since both twins derive from the same fertilized egg. I'm not sure how future advancements can overcome that issue.
- muskstinks 7mo agoThere can be very small mutation which you might be able to find if it happened.
- PaulKeeble 7mo agoEpigenetic changes might be one possibility, they are sometimes passed down to children and are responses to environmental adjustments. We don't know most of the rules around them however nor what can be passed down and to what extent but potentially in the future we should know more.
- gadders 7mo ago>>A woman who had sex with identical twins separately "within four days of each other" Amazing.
- muskstinks 7mo agoWhy? And why do we evaluate this on something like hn? Are you shaming a person for having sex or?
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoRight? Good for her/them, assuming everyone was consenting.
- ap99 7mo agoNot really, no. Sex has consequences like these people are seeing. Consenting people can still make mistakes and ruin relationships where if they had exercised better judgment they wouldn't have had problems.
- IAmBroom 7mo agoA child has one biological mother and effectively two biological fathers. A significant portion of the population have zero of one or both groups known. The child will likely be just fine.
- asah 7mo ago"Amazing" is not necessarily a judgment, could in fact be congratulations or even judgment-free entirely just amazing story.
- ap99 7mo agoThe sex part is a bit shame worthy I'd say. But the part where this woman cannot identify the father is definitely worth shaming.
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- snvzz 7mo agoConsidering outcomes of children that grow up in a single parent scenario are well-known to be much better when it is the father rather than the mother, in the interest of the child, I would propose splitting custody between the two fathers, leaving the mother out.
- muskstinks 7mo agoYeah probably because our patrichary is shit and woman earn a lot less money than man do which makes it easier for the man to pay for baby sitter, nanny, education etc. Perhaps we fixup our society instead of blaming it to a woman?
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoNo clue why you are getting downvoted. It's well documented that women earn less. It's well documented that children are expensive. It's well documented that social safety nets are inadequate to assist in raising a child. You've literally just stated some objective facts and suggested we fix some of those challenges.
- ap99 7mo agoMoney isn't the only factor of why the single fathers produce better outcomes for their children.
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoShow your work, provide a source.
- mieses 7mo agoyou bring an interesting perspective
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- nyeah 7mo agoRage farming with no scientific interest. Sad to see this upvoted to front page.
- giantg2 7mo agoThere is an interesting question - how can we prove paternity or other DNA based questions with identical twins (full sequencing looking for mutations?) and if we can't, how do we handle legal responsibilities in this sort of case? There's a lot of good material to discuss here.
- mieses 7mo agono there isn't but i appreciate your amusing stupidity. this is a good example of the state of exception that most people with common sense intuitively understand.
- leni536 7mo agoThis feels like purely a legal question. The child is equally related the twins both genetically and seemingly in other relationships.
- hnbad 7mo agoIf I understand correctly, the current outcome is that the twin remains on the birth certificate but his legal rights granted by paternity have been suspended? I understand the reasoning that the inability to prove a positive does not suffice to prove a negative but clearly his presence on the birth certificate is a positive claim that has been ruled invalid - shouldn't it then be removed, at least temporarily?
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 7mo agoOh wow, if they break up, who has to pay for the kid then?
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- josefritzishere 7mo agoFlagged? The chat looks pretty innoccuous.
- qingcharles 7mo agoYeah, no idea why this was flagged.