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Well, if you open-source anything these days and it does make it big, you can be prepared for a flood of low-effort slop PRs that you must either review for fre

by bsza 6mo ago

Well, if you open-source anything these days and it does make it big, you can be prepared for a flood of low-effort slop PRs that you must either review for free or stop accepting external contributions altogether, making it effectively closed-source. You can't choose to ignore the garbage, it will collide with your stuff, unless your stuff is small enough to avoid collisions (in which case no one will see it).

xnorswap 6mo ago
Zero-contribution open source doesn't at all make it closed source. It delivers on the value of open source, that anyone using your software is permitted to make and distribute their own changes. SQLite is an example of a project that is open source but closed contribution.
- bsza 6mo ago
  Maybe, but that's hardly comforting (and definitely not in the spirit of open source) if you're forced to take that decision, knowing it will hurt your project, because the alternative is getting DDoSed.
  - iib 6mo ago
    If by the spirit, you only mean the bazaar model, then yes. But it's in the original spirit of free software. GNU preferred to keep the development somewhat contained, even so many years ago.
- SQLite 6mo ago
  Minor correction: SQLite is not closed to contributions. It just has an unusually high bar to accepting contributions. The project does not commonly accept pull requests from random passers-by on the internet. But SQLite does accept outside contributed code from time to time. Key gates include that paperwork is in place to verify that the contributed code is in the public domain and that the code meets certain high quality standards.
  - xnorswap 6mo ago
    Thank you for the correction, I should have said "not open contribution" rather than "closed contribution".
  - Zigurd 6mo ago
    I was about to try to make this point: there have always been projects that attract more potential contributors than there are competent contributors. And there have always been techniques for identifying quality contributions from new contributors.

by bsza 6mo ago

xnorswap 6mo ago

Zero-contribution open source doesn't at all make it closed source. It delivers on the value of open source, that anyone using your software is permitted to make and distribute their own changes. SQLite is an example of a project that is open source but closed contribution.

bsza 6mo ago
Maybe, but that's hardly comforting (and definitely not in the spirit of open source) if you're forced to take that decision, knowing it will hurt your project, because the alternative is getting DDoSed.
- iib 6mo ago
  If by the spirit, you only mean the bazaar model, then yes. But it's in the original spirit of free software. GNU preferred to keep the development somewhat contained, even so many years ago.
SQLite 6mo ago
Minor correction: SQLite is not closed to contributions. It just has an unusually high bar to accepting contributions. The project does not commonly accept pull requests from random passers-by on the internet. But SQLite does accept outside contributed code from time to time. Key gates include that paperwork is in place to verify that the contributed code is in the public domain and that the code meets certain high quality standards.
- xnorswap 6mo ago
  Thank you for the correction, I should have said "not open contribution" rather than "closed contribution".
- Zigurd 6mo ago
  I was about to try to make this point: there have always been projects that attract more potential contributors than there are competent contributors. And there have always been techniques for identifying quality contributions from new contributors.