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How the Internet of Everything Will Change the World…for the Better

17 points by harrydoukas 14y ago

state 14y ago
For as much as I would be excited to see something like this happen, I can't help but feel like when the acronym precedes the implementation that's a bad sign.
bdfh42 14y ago
There is also a more immediate and practical issue. Each connected "thing" (let us assume sensor for the moment) is supplying a state signal about one thing - this needs coordinating in some way to tell you useful things (like some action needs to be taken or there is someone in your house - or better, a particular person is in your house). This requires some form of set-up for each potential scenario. I am looking to start in with the Eve Alphs Kickstarter project http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspberry-pi-wireless-development-hardwa/posts http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspber... to explore ways for sensors to self organise through software to provide a higher level view of current state that can be interrogated at a much higher level - perhaps be able to deal with a completely new situation.
- damian2000 14y ago
  Have you seen this? http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/wireless-sensor-tags-help-you-keep-track-of-your-stuff/ http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/wireless-sensor-tags-... Low cost ($15 each) RF sensors connect via a separate 'tag hub' device, which in turn is connected to the Internet.
  - bdfh42 14y ago
    Yes - there are a good number of sensor sets out there and (like this example) quite a few systemic approaches that parley your data through a third party app - but neither approach does it for me at this stage - although something like that may evolve. I want my set of interconnected things to self organise a data set about the current state [I am not explaining this well]. To explore such a approach then I will need to write software that explores how multiple data items can construct a body of knowledge (is the wrong word but it will do for now) about the state of the whole. Can't do that through someone else's web app.
    - damian2000 14y ago
      It sounds like what you want is something like what home automation controllers (and commercial building automation controllers) do. They generally run a 'master' program written in some internal scripting language that consists mainly of a bunch of If,Then blocks. These have access to all the sensor states and outputs; it 'wires up' the logic to give a bunch of sensors some rudimentary intelligence. E.g. if (external_lightSensor is OFF) then after 10 minutes, turn on house lights endif if (front_door_reed_switch is ON AND home_alarm is ON) then Send SMS to mobile_phone Turn ON siren for 5 minutes Turn ON stobe for 20 minutes endif
skreech 14y ago
Right now we should focus on what can be created using existing technology (such as amazing battery-powered IP-capable wireless hardware and open source software). Let the afterworld come up with a suitable acronym for a society-level overview.

17 points by harrydoukas 14y ago

state 14y ago

For as much as I would be excited to see something like this happen, I can't help but feel like when the acronym precedes the implementation that's a bad sign.

bdfh42 14y ago

There is also a more immediate and practical issue. Each connected "thing" (let us assume sensor for the moment) is supplying a state signal about one thing - this needs coordinating in some way to tell you useful things (like some action needs to be taken or there is someone in your house - or better, a particular person is in your house). This requires some form of set-up for each potential scenario. I am looking to start in with the Eve Alphs Kickstarter project http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspberry-pi-wireless-development-hardwa/posts http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ciseco/eve-alpha-raspber... to explore ways for sensors to self organise through software to provide a higher level view of current state that can be interrogated at a much higher level - perhaps be able to deal with a completely new situation.

damian2000 14y ago
Have you seen this? http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/wireless-sensor-tags-help-you-keep-track-of-your-stuff/ http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/wireless-sensor-tags-... Low cost ($15 each) RF sensors connect via a separate 'tag hub' device, which in turn is connected to the Internet.
- bdfh42 14y ago
  Yes - there are a good number of sensor sets out there and (like this example) quite a few systemic approaches that parley your data through a third party app - but neither approach does it for me at this stage - although something like that may evolve. I want my set of interconnected things to self organise a data set about the current state [I am not explaining this well]. To explore such a approach then I will need to write software that explores how multiple data items can construct a body of knowledge (is the wrong word but it will do for now) about the state of the whole. Can't do that through someone else's web app.
  - damian2000 14y ago
    It sounds like what you want is something like what home automation controllers (and commercial building automation controllers) do. They generally run a 'master' program written in some internal scripting language that consists mainly of a bunch of If,Then blocks. These have access to all the sensor states and outputs; it 'wires up' the logic to give a bunch of sensors some rudimentary intelligence. E.g. if (external_lightSensor is OFF) then after 10 minutes, turn on house lights endif if (front_door_reed_switch is ON AND home_alarm is ON) then Send SMS to mobile_phone Turn ON siren for 5 minutes Turn ON stobe for 20 minutes endif

skreech 14y ago

Right now we should focus on what can be created using existing technology (such as amazing battery-powered IP-capable wireless hardware and open source software). Let the afterworld come up with a suitable acronym for a society-level overview.