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> I like to spend more time expanding/marketing my business than worry about scaling it. If you're truly more interested in the business side, why don't you bu

by mnutt 14y ago

> I like to spend more time expanding/marketing my business than worry about scaling it. If you're truly more interested in the business side, why don't you build it as quickly as possible in rails/django and then later if it warrants it you can hire some people to build it in lift/something else?

stock_toaster 14y ago
In addition, startups tend to pivot a few times, and agility is arguably more important early on than raw performance (depending on product of course).
- neya 14y ago
  Agreed. But, probably my situation applies when you've come past all the pivoting and you've settled with one idea you decidedly are going to work on.
  - davidw 14y ago
    Pivoting stops when you have found a scalable, repeatable business model, not an idea to work on.
neya 14y ago
Very good point. Truth is, I want to keep down the hiring as minimum as possible, particularly when I plan to bootstrap. Imagine, I could eliminate hiring these people just to 'scale my app' because I chose a language/framework that doesn't scale well. There's some savings in this process. I could be wrong though, because I'm only speculating and I've never hit that traffic level, and probably never will.
- redguava 14y ago
  The point where you are having scaling issues because of the language then you are really going to be past the worrying about bootstrapping/hiring stage. It sounds like you are spending time/effort worrying about scaling way before needed. If you can solve your problems you have today faster then I would do that, not hinder yourself today for possible problems way down the track.
  - neya 14y ago
    Very valid point there dude. I don't know dude...maybe I just want things to be efficient right from ground up...Or it could be the after-effects of falling in love with Functional programming in Scala :)
    - redguava 14y ago
      There is plenty of merit using a language you enjoy. A certain language might be twice as fast to get work done in, but you can be 10 times as fast if you are enjoying yourself and motivated. I just wouldn't kid yourself that scaling is the reason for the choice. Just enjoying it is plenty of reason.

by mnutt 14y ago

stock_toaster 14y ago

In addition, startups tend to pivot a few times, and agility is arguably more important early on than raw performance (depending on product of course).

neya 14y ago
Agreed. But, probably my situation applies when you've come past all the pivoting and you've settled with one idea you decidedly are going to work on.
- davidw 14y ago
  Pivoting stops when you have found a scalable, repeatable business model, not an idea to work on.

neya 14y ago

Very good point. Truth is, I want to keep down the hiring as minimum as possible, particularly when I plan to bootstrap. Imagine, I could eliminate hiring these people just to 'scale my app' because I chose a language/framework that doesn't scale well. There's some savings in this process. I could be wrong though, because I'm only speculating and I've never hit that traffic level, and probably never will.

redguava 14y ago
The point where you are having scaling issues because of the language then you are really going to be past the worrying about bootstrapping/hiring stage. It sounds like you are spending time/effort worrying about scaling way before needed. If you can solve your problems you have today faster then I would do that, not hinder yourself today for possible problems way down the track.
- neya 14y ago
  Very valid point there dude. I don't know dude...maybe I just want things to be efficient right from ground up...Or it could be the after-effects of falling in love with Functional programming in Scala :)
  - redguava 14y ago
    There is plenty of merit using a language you enjoy. A certain language might be twice as fast to get work done in, but you can be 10 times as fast if you are enjoying yourself and motivated. I just wouldn't kid yourself that scaling is the reason for the choice. Just enjoying it is plenty of reason.