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>The real frustrating part is that Cloudflare's "definition" of suspicious keeps changing and expanding. That's... exactly expected? It's a cat and mouse game.
by gruez 7mo ago
>The real frustrating part is that Cloudflare's "definition" of suspicious keeps changing and expanding.
That's... exactly expected? It's a cat and mouse game. People running botnets or AI scrapers aren't diligently setting the evil bit on their packets.
- jagged-chisel 7mo agoThat’s obviously because they’re not being “evil”
- lxgr 7mo agoSo the stable state here is all humans eventually being locked out? (Bots are getting better every day; I doubt the same is true for all humans, including those with weird browsers or networks unwilling to install some dystopian Cloudflare "Internet passport".) But hey, at least some bots are also not making it past Cloudflare!
- small_scombrus 7mo ago> So the stable state here is all humans eventually being locked out? Yep. The most easy to implement stable state for any system where you're aiming to prevent misuse is to just prevent use
- WatchDog 7mo agoThe inevitability is that these kinds of services just won't be offered without identifying yourself. Claude's free tier requires a phone number just to try it.
- sph 7mo agoPRISM as a Service.
- kristjansson 7mo agoOr else a player too big to be blocked moves into the space with a service that provides some/all of the privacy benefits, but declines to offer the other undesirable aspects of VPN (e.g. location shifting to circumvent local restrictions) i.e. iCloud private relay is the future
- lxgr 7mo agoI’ve already had a few services lock me out with iCloud Private Relay.
- Gormo 7mo agoTo the contrary, people running botnets or AI scrapers are likely going out of their way to mimic ordinary web traffic from consumer devices. Ultimately, these measures will only affect users who are trying to protect their privacy and security, and will be ineffective at stopping bots.