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You're still relying on the government for it, or a similar institution. Paying for your own health insurance is insane. I would move out of any country that w
by tovej 7mo ago
You're still relying on the government for it, or a similar institution.
Paying for your own health insurance is insane. I would move out of any country that would force me to do that.
- WalterBright 7mo agoA pension is an earned benefit, part of one's pay package, not a free goodie. Welfare is a free goodie. It's a big difference. Your "free" health care is paid for by you and others. It's so expensive because of that. Healthcare wasn't particularly expensive before the government got involved in it. Modern governments do indeed treat the citizens like children.
- tovej 7mo agoI'm not sure you're aware, but this is a very American view of things. A very skewed one. Quite a childish one too. Bit of irony there. There is a guaranteed pension where I live, it's part of the social contract [1]. And healthcare insurance is much more expensive than public healthcare (both for society and the individual). [1] https://www.etk.fi/en/finnish-pension-system/pensions/national-pension/ https://www.etk.fi/en/finnish-pension-system/pensions/nation... Good luck living in your capitalist free market paradise. I hope your government stops treating your companies like people and your people like cattle.
- WalterBright 7mo ago> Quite a childish one too. Self-reliance is adultish, not childish.
- tovej 7mo agoExpecting that everyone in society should be self-reliant, and that resources should not be managed socially is naive. It's a maximally inefficient and cruel way to organize society.
- WalterBright 7mo agoI didn't say "everyone".
- tovej 7mo agoNo, but you did say every adult. That's what I meant by everyone.
- WalterBright 7mo agoI didn't say "every" either.
- tovej 7mo agoYou say adults should be self-reliant. That's a categorical statement. That means it should apply to "every" adult. Do you want to continue to play pedantic whack-a-mole? I can go on forever.