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Also "ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization it makes me question all their other arguments.

• esseph 6mo ago
  > ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization It's accurate. They do separate families. How or why doesn't matter, the fact stands in its own. It's not a "mischaracterization", it's a fact.
  • 0x3f 6mo ago
    If context is irrelevant then every country in Europe already separates families, and thus how can this be a complaint?
    • esseph 6mo ago
      Believe it or not, it's possible for more than one person or entity to do something. I know, it's really incredible to think about! John and Bill can both scam Elizabeth, even though they live in different countries! But apparently I can't complain because they're both criminals and I can only complain about one! It says in the rulebook!
      • 0x3f 6mo ago
        I'm not sure you've quite understood the conversation.
        • esseph 6mo ago
          I'm not sure you understand what an objective truth is, so anything else is really irrelevant.
  • encom 6mo ago
    So do the police/courts if your dad goes to jail. It's incidental to their purpose.
    • esseph 6mo ago
      "The purpose of a system is what it does"
      • its_ethan 6mo ago
        So... what exactly is your argument here? The children of a man who is convicted and sent to prison should also go to prison, so as to avoid separation? Or that we just don't send men to prison if they have children?