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I don’t get it. It says nothing leaves your computer, but it’s sending things to OpenRouter, not running models locally. Perhaps I am dumb (and I always feel du

by girvo 7mo ago

I don’t get it. It says nothing leaves your computer, but it’s sending things to OpenRouter, not running models locally. Perhaps I am dumb (and I always feel dumb after reading an AI generated README for yet another AI tool Tbf)

_ache_ 7mo ago
> Yes. OpenYak is local-first. Your conversations and files are stored only on your machine. When using cloud models, only API calls to LLM providers leave your computer. So local-first and still upload files to cloud models if you configure it.
- Barbing 7mo ago
  >only API calls Given the software‘s broad appeal, I’d rephrase to make it more clear every word/file you send would leave your computer.
  - _ache_ 7mo ago
    Absolutely, that is misleading to not-much-technical people, maybe intentionally. Does not inspire confidence.
3s 7mo ago
Yes it appears your personal data IS being sent to open router and the model provider here. The problem I think is that a lot of people (especially in the openclaw community) mistake “I run it on my mac mini” to mean their data is private. Meanwhile all data is being shipped off for training to anthropic via openrouter and both of those parties see everything. I guess you could theoretically plug in a local model here but of course the readme should be more precise here when talking about privacy
- hrmtst93837 7mo ago
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raincole 7mo ago
> run locally via Ollama Are you saying this part is a lie?
- girvo 7mo ago
  Yes. In that I'm saying their AI generated slop README is misleading enough to be lying. When you prominently say "all without uploading anything to the cloud." but the default does exactly that, a single half-sentence mentioning Ollama doesn't cut it.
  - Barbing 7mo ago
    This is a weird phenomenon with some dictation apps too. They talk about privacy first, they talk up local first, then their default settings are to send every syllable to someone else’s computer. Once you understand the app it’s trivial to make it a local, but there’s a good chance your first transcript is coming off a server unlike what the marketing material suggested.
jstummbillig 7mo ago
> It says nothing leaves your computer Where does it say that? It sends to OpenRouter if you chose to use OpenRouter. Can use Ollama. Idk how to get more local than that? Any tool will be non-local, when you do something explicitly non-local.
gbalduzzi 7mo ago
I read it as "everything controlled by us is local first and we do not collect any data about you" I agree that someone may misunderstand their phrasing though
hrmtst93837 7mo ago
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by girvo 7mo ago

_ache_ 7mo ago

> Yes. OpenYak is local-first. Your conversations and files are stored only on your machine. When using cloud models, only API calls to LLM providers leave your computer. So local-first and still upload files to cloud models if you configure it.

Barbing 7mo ago
>only API calls Given the software‘s broad appeal, I’d rephrase to make it more clear every word/file you send would leave your computer.
- _ache_ 7mo ago
  Absolutely, that is misleading to not-much-technical people, maybe intentionally. Does not inspire confidence.

3s 7mo ago

Yes it appears your personal data IS being sent to open router and the model provider here. The problem I think is that a lot of people (especially in the openclaw community) mistake “I run it on my mac mini” to mean their data is private. Meanwhile all data is being shipped off for training to anthropic via openrouter and both of those parties see everything. I guess you could theoretically plug in a local model here but of course the readme should be more precise here when talking about privacy

hrmtst93837 7mo ago
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raincole 7mo ago

> run locally via Ollama Are you saying this part is a lie?

girvo 7mo ago
Yes. In that I'm saying their AI generated slop README is misleading enough to be lying. When you prominently say "all without uploading anything to the cloud." but the default does exactly that, a single half-sentence mentioning Ollama doesn't cut it.
- Barbing 7mo ago
  This is a weird phenomenon with some dictation apps too. They talk about privacy first, they talk up local first, then their default settings are to send every syllable to someone else’s computer. Once you understand the app it’s trivial to make it a local, but there’s a good chance your first transcript is coming off a server unlike what the marketing material suggested.

jstummbillig 7mo ago

> It says nothing leaves your computer Where does it say that? It sends to OpenRouter if you chose to use OpenRouter. Can use Ollama. Idk how to get more local than that? Any tool will be non-local, when you do something explicitly non-local.

gbalduzzi 7mo ago

I read it as "everything controlled by us is local first and we do not collect any data about you" I agree that someone may misunderstand their phrasing though

hrmtst93837 7mo ago

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