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Hatch Act won't be enforced until the next administration and next DOJ.

by iAMkenough 7mo ago

extraduder_ire 7mo ago
At least. I'm not hopeful.
- nielsbot 7mo ago
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  - throwawayqqq11 7mo ago
    Thank god there are still republicans left. But snark aside, the next elections will be decided around damage control. Yes, the old school dems are pretty spineless (corrupt) but i guess even they feel the temptation of revenge and taking out political opponents for good. I really hope the new generation of democrats succeeds and breaks the corruption ties.
    - nielsbot 7mo ago
      Thank you for understanding. I'm pointing things like Obama "looking forward not backward" and not punishing Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Condi, etc for war crimes and illegal warmongering which leads directly to today's current illegal Iran invasion. We will need actual punishments for everyone who illegally defunded (or funded) programs, got us into the Iran invasion, embezzled and lined their pockets with corruption etc etc etc.
AbstractH24 7mo ago
> Hatch Act won't be enforced until the next administration and next DOJ. How did that last administration's dwelling on persecuting the one before it turn out? While I don't like the current one and certainly agree that some of its actions are totally unethical, once it's over can we just move on and look forward, not back?
- Jedd 7mo ago
  This sounds like something criminals would say / want.
  - AbstractH24 7mo ago
    How do we move forward?
    - NewJazz 7mo ago
      Prosecuting criminals.
      - ceejayoz 7mo ago
        That'll only work here if there are reforms to the pardon power while we're at it. Any convictions a Democratic administration manages to obtain will be pardoned the next time a Republican gets in.
        RankingMember 7mo ago
        That Jan 6th participants were almost uniformly let off the hook is a stain that will continue to haunt us until pardon power is finally reigned in.
        AbstractH24 7mo ago
        Agreed More than prosecution we need politicians elected who are willing to reform. Even if those reforms reduce their power as well
        ceejayoz 7mo ago
        Both is fine. Prosecute, and get rid of the loopholes that made it necessary to do so.
    - Jedd 7mo ago
      "Justice must be seen to be done." Without consequences for illegal behaviour, there's no incentive for bad actors to not continue acting bad. This, in no small part, explains why we are where we are today - a misplaced attempt to 'move forward' by ignoring illegal actions.
ImJamal 7mo ago
Has the Hatch Act ever been enforced? Every administration in the last 20+ years have had people violate it but as far as I can tell nobody has been found guilty.

Hatch Act won't be enforced until the next administration and next DOJ.

extraduder_ire 7mo ago

At least. I'm not hopeful.

nielsbot 7mo ago
[flagged]
- throwawayqqq11 7mo ago
  Thank god there are still republicans left. But snark aside, the next elections will be decided around damage control. Yes, the old school dems are pretty spineless (corrupt) but i guess even they feel the temptation of revenge and taking out political opponents for good. I really hope the new generation of democrats succeeds and breaks the corruption ties.
  - nielsbot 7mo ago
    Thank you for understanding. I'm pointing things like Obama "looking forward not backward" and not punishing Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Condi, etc for war crimes and illegal warmongering which leads directly to today's current illegal Iran invasion. We will need actual punishments for everyone who illegally defunded (or funded) programs, got us into the Iran invasion, embezzled and lined their pockets with corruption etc etc etc.

AbstractH24 7mo ago

> Hatch Act won't be enforced until the next administration and next DOJ. How did that last administration's dwelling on persecuting the one before it turn out? While I don't like the current one and certainly agree that some of its actions are totally unethical, once it's over can we just move on and look forward, not back?

Jedd 7mo ago
This sounds like something criminals would say / want.
- AbstractH24 7mo ago
  How do we move forward?
  - NewJazz 7mo ago
    Prosecuting criminals.
    - ceejayoz 7mo ago
      That'll only work here if there are reforms to the pardon power while we're at it. Any convictions a Democratic administration manages to obtain will be pardoned the next time a Republican gets in.
      - RankingMember 7mo ago
        That Jan 6th participants were almost uniformly let off the hook is a stain that will continue to haunt us until pardon power is finally reigned in.
      - AbstractH24 7mo ago
        Agreed More than prosecution we need politicians elected who are willing to reform. Even if those reforms reduce their power as well
        ceejayoz 7mo ago
        Both is fine. Prosecute, and get rid of the loopholes that made it necessary to do so.
  - Jedd 7mo ago
    "Justice must be seen to be done." Without consequences for illegal behaviour, there's no incentive for bad actors to not continue acting bad. This, in no small part, explains why we are where we are today - a misplaced attempt to 'move forward' by ignoring illegal actions.

ImJamal 7mo ago

Has the Hatch Act ever been enforced? Every administration in the last 20+ years have had people violate it but as far as I can tell nobody has been found guilty.