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If you’re talking about Trump, you may remember that E Jean Carroll won a lawsuit against him. She’s walking the earth and continuing to live a public life. An

If you’re talking about Trump, you may remember that E Jean Carroll won a lawsuit against him. She’s walking the earth and continuing to live a public life. And again, millions of dollars are available from settlement funds if Epstein was involved, there’s already some of the best lawyers in the country begging to represent you, and there’s people volunteering to pay for your security needs. You’re also ignoring the many victims that came out before Epstein died. This is just an excuse to perpetuate the conspiracy theories. It doesn’t hold water. And of course if anything was released from super secret “the files” they’re definitely still covering up, they’d become publicly known. Surely you see how this line of reasoning is identical to that of any other conspiracy or moral panic.

esseph 7mo ago
> And of course if anything was released from super secret “the files” they’re definitely still covering up, they’d become publicly known. They've been caught trying to do Trump related reactions at least three times now.
- Amezarak 7mo ago
  You misunderstand my point. I’m saying that if there are any credible accusations in “the files” beyond those well-documented ones against Epstein and Maxwell, then the accusers would be known publicly anyway when they’re disclosed. The whole thing falls apart the moment you examine the actual evidence and think about it. It’s really disappointing that smart people on even this forum get wrapped up into this junk.
  - esseph 7mo ago
    > You misunderstand my point. I’m saying that if there are any credible accusations in “the files” beyond those well-documented ones against Epstein and Maxwell, then the accusers would be known publicly anyway when they’re disclosed. The whole thing falls apart the moment you examine the actual evidence and think about it. It’s really disappointing that smart people on even this forum get wrapped up into this junk. Did you know that Epstein's hard drives were removed by a private investigator, and that the FBI and DOJ never had them to begin with? They were removed before they were searched by law enforcement. https://abcnews.com/US/house-oversight-panel-seeks-testimony-private-investigators-removed/story?id=131446031 https://abcnews.com/US/house-oversight-panel-seeks-testimony... https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamonds-hard-drives-evidence-what-happened-2026-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamond... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/27/epstein-private-detectives-testify-removal-of-evidence/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/27/epstein-private-...
    - Amezarak 7mo ago
      And? What does that have to do with the absence of witnesses of a sex trafficking ring involving anyone else? This isn’t even news, it was a big deal back in the day and is covered extensively in the report about the DoJ’s conduct. Read the reports and consider the context; this is a nothingburger. But because the conspiracy theory has been started, everything that happens will be read as supporting it. Epstein had very good reasons for destroying evidence of his own deeds without any need for anyone else being involved. (The evidence the DoJ collected was very weak and they weren’t sure it would sustain a prosecution, which is partly why they were glad to go with a plea deal.) You’re coming in primed to believe there’s already a conspiracy about something else altogether.
      - esseph 7mo ago
        > And? What does that have to do with the absence of witnesses of a sex trafficking ring involving anyone else? Did you just ask, in a post about evidence being taken and keep from investigators, why there isn't evidence? > This isn’t even news, it was a big deal back in the day and is covered extensively in the report about the DoJ’s conduct. Then why is it news FROM TODAY/YESTERDAY? --- In a March 19 deposition with the House Oversight Committee, Darren Indyke, Epstein's longtime personal attorney, said he learned after Epstein's 2008 conviction that the hard drives were in the possession of Riley Kiraly, a private investigations firm. "The Committee requests that you make yourself available for a transcribed interview to provide insight into the contents, removal, storage, and location of materials removed from Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach home," the letter to Riley says. source: https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamonds-hard-drives-evidence-what-happened-2026-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamond...
        OrangePilled 7mo ago
        That computer and surveillance equipment was removed from Epstein's home and withheld from law enforcement throughout his Florida case has been public since 2020. That Riley Kiraly possessed the equipment was known to the lead prosecutor as well. [46;176] You can CTRL-F "computer" and get 92 matches indicating their importance: https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/1c1f6649-226e-4afa-953e-826dee8de3b5/note/49b577fa-6ad8-415d-8efc-c553423af314 https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/do.... It seems that the only "news" is the bit that you mentioned about Indyke/Riley. Indyke apparently was not involved in the Florida case. At least he isn't mentioned in the linked DOJ report among Epstein's counsel. I don't know what it would take for it to be deemed necessary to seize the equipment that the prosecution failed to get almost 20 years ago.

esseph 7mo ago

> And of course if anything was released from super secret “the files” they’re definitely still covering up, they’d become publicly known. They've been caught trying to do Trump related reactions at least three times now.

Amezarak 7mo ago
You misunderstand my point. I’m saying that if there are any credible accusations in “the files” beyond those well-documented ones against Epstein and Maxwell, then the accusers would be known publicly anyway when they’re disclosed. The whole thing falls apart the moment you examine the actual evidence and think about it. It’s really disappointing that smart people on even this forum get wrapped up into this junk.
- esseph 7mo ago
  > You misunderstand my point. I’m saying that if there are any credible accusations in “the files” beyond those well-documented ones against Epstein and Maxwell, then the accusers would be known publicly anyway when they’re disclosed. The whole thing falls apart the moment you examine the actual evidence and think about it. It’s really disappointing that smart people on even this forum get wrapped up into this junk. Did you know that Epstein's hard drives were removed by a private investigator, and that the FBI and DOJ never had them to begin with? They were removed before they were searched by law enforcement. https://abcnews.com/US/house-oversight-panel-seeks-testimony-private-investigators-removed/story?id=131446031 https://abcnews.com/US/house-oversight-panel-seeks-testimony... https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamonds-hard-drives-evidence-what-happened-2026-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamond... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/27/epstein-private-detectives-testify-removal-of-evidence/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/27/epstein-private-...
  - Amezarak 7mo ago
    And? What does that have to do with the absence of witnesses of a sex trafficking ring involving anyone else? This isn’t even news, it was a big deal back in the day and is covered extensively in the report about the DoJ’s conduct. Read the reports and consider the context; this is a nothingburger. But because the conspiracy theory has been started, everything that happens will be read as supporting it. Epstein had very good reasons for destroying evidence of his own deeds without any need for anyone else being involved. (The evidence the DoJ collected was very weak and they weren’t sure it would sustain a prosecution, which is partly why they were glad to go with a plea deal.) You’re coming in primed to believe there’s already a conspiracy about something else altogether.
    - esseph 7mo ago
      > And? What does that have to do with the absence of witnesses of a sex trafficking ring involving anyone else? Did you just ask, in a post about evidence being taken and keep from investigators, why there isn't evidence? > This isn’t even news, it was a big deal back in the day and is covered extensively in the report about the DoJ’s conduct. Then why is it news FROM TODAY/YESTERDAY? --- In a March 19 deposition with the House Oversight Committee, Darren Indyke, Epstein's longtime personal attorney, said he learned after Epstein's 2008 conviction that the hard drives were in the possession of Riley Kiraly, a private investigations firm. "The Committee requests that you make yourself available for a transcribed interview to provide insight into the contents, removal, storage, and location of materials removed from Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach home," the letter to Riley says. source: https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamonds-hard-drives-evidence-what-happened-2026-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-safe-diamond...
      - OrangePilled 7mo ago
        That computer and surveillance equipment was removed from Epstein's home and withheld from law enforcement throughout his Florida case has been public since 2020. That Riley Kiraly possessed the equipment was known to the lead prosecutor as well. [46;176] You can CTRL-F "computer" and get 92 matches indicating their importance: https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/1c1f6649-226e-4afa-953e-826dee8de3b5/note/49b577fa-6ad8-415d-8efc-c553423af314 https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/do.... It seems that the only "news" is the bit that you mentioned about Indyke/Riley. Indyke apparently was not involved in the Florida case. At least he isn't mentioned in the linked DOJ report among Epstein's counsel. I don't know what it would take for it to be deemed necessary to seize the equipment that the prosecution failed to get almost 20 years ago.