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This is possibly the first time in human history this opinion has been stated.

by vovavili 7mo ago

sersi 7mo ago
I mean Apple hasn't done itself any favours with Macos Tahoe.
- drob518 7mo ago
  “Liquid Ass” as some people say.
polshaw 7mo ago
I don't want KDE but I would much prefer gnome to macos desktop, I think it's both prettier and more functional, and that's not a tahoe thing. I hate finder too, and don't see any way to properly use an alternative.
Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
To be honest, I agree a little bit because I remember from my time at customizing KDE that everyone wanted it to make it look like Mac OS but it feels a bit of peer-pressure/cool-factor, people used to like how Mac OS look but after Tahoe, I feel like most people don't. To be honest, I am on mac right now but I really like Niri/Hyprland and to a degree KDE as well. I definitely feel like those were immensely more customizable and I miss that customizability, even if some people might use that customizability to make it look like MacOS default.
layer8 7mo ago
Similar opinions are voiced in about every recent macOS UI thread, and even occasionally in Windows threads.
hnlmorg 7mo ago
It really isn’t. There are a great many people who use macs for work but who do not like Apples design choices. And that number has skyrocketed even further since Liquid Glass was pushed onto people. In fact one of the front page articles today is literally calling macOS “ugly” in the title.
- pjerem 7mo ago
  Yup ! And actually i used to like macOS when Apple still cared about it. But now it’s KDE all the way.
ozgrakkurt 7mo ago
not sure about the looks but I also find KDE much better in usability
bityard 7mo ago
I've been using Linux on the desktop for decades at this point. KDE Plasma is my current favorite and I've been using it for a few years now. It has everything you'd want in a desktop (maybe a bit more), looks great, and is very fast even on modest hardware. My current job has me using MacOS on an M3 Pro Macbook and I find it barely tolerable compared to KDE. Usually when I want to do something new or change some configuration, either there is no way to do it, or it's hidden behind some key combination that I never would have guessed. I would describe the overall feel of MacOS as "syrupy." When using the mouse or typing, there is almost always some kind of barely-perceptible latency. Nothing is ever crisp and instant. (This isn't specific to this machine, it feels the same way on every Mac I've borrowed.) It's sort of like someone decided that the only way to make it smooth was to also make it slow.
baq 7mo ago
Sir I’m here stuck on somewhat workable Sonoma, dread the day enterprise IT forces the push of Tahoe and would take a kde box in a heartbeat.
heavyset_go 7mo ago
Go through my post history and you'll see I've been saying the same, or similar, for years :) Plasma can be configured to rhyme with macOS' GUI. Not as in shitty macOS themes, but button placement, docks, global menus, widgets, Spotlight, Stage Manager, hot corners, keyboard shortcuts, Preview in Finder, etc. I have Plasma configured to take advantage of my decade+ of macOS muscle memory without having to put up with Finder and the abysmal task-switching and window management experience on macOS. Whenever I have to use macOS, I am reminded of how much better Plasma is. I'd might even buy a Mac again if I could use it instead of the default UI.
kombine 7mo ago
I was given the latest MacBook Pro at my new job not long ago, but I forced them to exchange it for Alan HP laptop just so I could use Linux on it. Unfortunately it's Ubuntu and not Plasma, but even so I'm happy I don't have to use Apple's software.
- mkl 7mo ago
  You can easily install Plasma on Ubuntu.
nunez 7mo ago
I’ll be the second then. I’ve love to use Fluxbox or xmonad on the Mac. I know that tiling mangers exist on macOS, but it’s never been the same experience.
wolvoleo 7mo ago
No I moved over from Mac to KDE years ago and I love it. I love the way it's so customisable. I hated the years I spent on opinionated software. The first years with macOS tiger it wasn't too bad but over the years it got worse.

This is possibly the first time in human history this opinion has been stated.

sersi 7mo ago

I mean Apple hasn't done itself any favours with Macos Tahoe.

drob518 7mo ago
“Liquid Ass” as some people say.

polshaw 7mo ago

I don't want KDE but I would much prefer gnome to macos desktop, I think it's both prettier and more functional, and that's not a tahoe thing. I hate finder too, and don't see any way to properly use an alternative.

Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago

To be honest, I agree a little bit because I remember from my time at customizing KDE that everyone wanted it to make it look like Mac OS but it feels a bit of peer-pressure/cool-factor, people used to like how Mac OS look but after Tahoe, I feel like most people don't. To be honest, I am on mac right now but I really like Niri/Hyprland and to a degree KDE as well. I definitely feel like those were immensely more customizable and I miss that customizability, even if some people might use that customizability to make it look like MacOS default.

layer8 7mo ago

Similar opinions are voiced in about every recent macOS UI thread, and even occasionally in Windows threads.

hnlmorg 7mo ago

It really isn’t. There are a great many people who use macs for work but who do not like Apples design choices. And that number has skyrocketed even further since Liquid Glass was pushed onto people. In fact one of the front page articles today is literally calling macOS “ugly” in the title.

pjerem 7mo ago
Yup ! And actually i used to like macOS when Apple still cared about it. But now it’s KDE all the way.

ozgrakkurt 7mo ago

not sure about the looks but I also find KDE much better in usability

bityard 7mo ago

I've been using Linux on the desktop for decades at this point. KDE Plasma is my current favorite and I've been using it for a few years now. It has everything you'd want in a desktop (maybe a bit more), looks great, and is very fast even on modest hardware. My current job has me using MacOS on an M3 Pro Macbook and I find it barely tolerable compared to KDE. Usually when I want to do something new or change some configuration, either there is no way to do it, or it's hidden behind some key combination that I never would have guessed. I would describe the overall feel of MacOS as "syrupy." When using the mouse or typing, there is almost always some kind of barely-perceptible latency. Nothing is ever crisp and instant. (This isn't specific to this machine, it feels the same way on every Mac I've borrowed.) It's sort of like someone decided that the only way to make it smooth was to also make it slow.

baq 7mo ago

Sir I’m here stuck on somewhat workable Sonoma, dread the day enterprise IT forces the push of Tahoe and would take a kde box in a heartbeat.

heavyset_go 7mo ago

Go through my post history and you'll see I've been saying the same, or similar, for years :) Plasma can be configured to rhyme with macOS' GUI. Not as in shitty macOS themes, but button placement, docks, global menus, widgets, Spotlight, Stage Manager, hot corners, keyboard shortcuts, Preview in Finder, etc. I have Plasma configured to take advantage of my decade+ of macOS muscle memory without having to put up with Finder and the abysmal task-switching and window management experience on macOS. Whenever I have to use macOS, I am reminded of how much better Plasma is. I'd might even buy a Mac again if I could use it instead of the default UI.

kombine 7mo ago

I was given the latest MacBook Pro at my new job not long ago, but I forced them to exchange it for Alan HP laptop just so I could use Linux on it. Unfortunately it's Ubuntu and not Plasma, but even so I'm happy I don't have to use Apple's software.

mkl 7mo ago
You can easily install Plasma on Ubuntu.

nunez 7mo ago

I’ll be the second then. I’ve love to use Fluxbox or xmonad on the Mac. I know that tiling mangers exist on macOS, but it’s never been the same experience.

wolvoleo 7mo ago

No I moved over from Mac to KDE years ago and I love it. I love the way it's so customisable. I hated the years I spent on opinionated software. The first years with macOS tiger it wasn't too bad but over the years it got worse.