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There was a post about astroturfing a while ago. One theory is that the talking points are seeded by a set of paid supporters on platforms like Twitter, Facebo

by kubb 7mo ago

There was a post about astroturfing a while ago. One theory is that the talking points are seeded by a set of paid supporters on platforms like Twitter, Facebook and Reddit. These people live in low income countries and can use LLM + broad directional instructions to mass produce comments in support of the regime. The talking points that are successful are then reinforced by genuine regime admirers, enter the canon and spread. There’s no verification mechanism for bad or wrong ideas, since we’re in a post truth society. The goal is to uphold the regime. The system trying to be stable and defend itself from the fallout of its actions. The actions are actually guided by an ideology plus personal interests, so they can’t be optimal.

alsetmusic 7mo ago
The Israeli military has a division to shape public opinion on social media. https://zeteo.com/p/israel-documentary-social-media https://zeteo.com/p/israel-documentary-social-media https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation-pixelated-propaganda-censored-platforms-and-battle-narrative-gaza https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation...
- jameshilliard 7mo ago
  > https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation-pixelated-propaganda-censored-platforms-and-battle-narrative-gaza https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation... I'm not sure citing a Qatari propaganda site with a well documented history of employing members of terrorist organizations as "journalists" is helping make your point.
  - karim79 7mo ago
    Let's the the documents you're speaking of (and not those fake IDF spreadsheets which list some of them as being Hamas members when they were 6 or 7 years old). Also please justify all of this: List of journalists killed in the Gaza war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...
    - alsetmusic 7mo ago
      Bari Weiss's CBS said a journalist who was killed was someone they worked with or some stupid shit when they were clearly a colleague or possibly more. I don't remember enough to be more specific, but that type of minimalism is rampant. Israel kills journalists and civilians. Oh shit, civilian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
  - fc417fc802 7mo ago
    And here I thought aljazeera was a respectable journalistic outfit. They certainly seem to be doing better than most of the corporate US media by my estimate. Perhaps you should back up your mud slinging?
    - jameshilliard 6mo ago
      > And here I thought aljazeera was a respectable journalistic outfit. While they may do some legitimate journalism they are well known for highly biased articles especially when it comes to anything relating to the middle east. > They certainly seem to be doing better than most of the corporate US media by my estimate. In what way? News organizations in the US like CNN certainly have higher standards than aljazeera. > Perhaps you should back up your mud slinging? Journalists who did work for aljazeera even held hostages in Gaza[0]. [0] https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525 https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525
      - alsetmusic 6mo ago
        > Journalists who did work for aljazeera even held hostages in Gaza[0]. > [0] https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525 https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525 Holy shit, you're right! The country murdering thousands of captive civilians and spreading proven lies about the status of hospitals as terror bases reported it, so it must be true! I'll never trust Al Jazeera again, now that I know they take hostages. That's just a really bad argument that falls flat on its face and discredits you.
        jameshilliard 6mo ago
        > proven lies about the status of hospitals as terror bases Hospitals being used by terrorists for military purposes in Gaza is well documented fact.[0][1] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital... [1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/15/gaza-hospital-used-for-weapons-ngo-admits/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/15/gaza-hospi...

by kubb 7mo ago

alsetmusic 7mo ago

The Israeli military has a division to shape public opinion on social media. https://zeteo.com/p/israel-documentary-social-media https://zeteo.com/p/israel-documentary-social-media https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation-pixelated-propaganda-censored-platforms-and-battle-narrative-gaza https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation...

jameshilliard 7mo ago
> https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation-pixelated-propaganda-censored-platforms-and-battle-narrative-gaza https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/analyses/digital-occupation... I'm not sure citing a Qatari propaganda site with a well documented history of employing members of terrorist organizations as "journalists" is helping make your point.
- karim79 7mo ago
  Let's the the documents you're speaking of (and not those fake IDF spreadsheets which list some of them as being Hamas members when they were 6 or 7 years old). Also please justify all of this: List of journalists killed in the Gaza war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...
  - alsetmusic 7mo ago
    Bari Weiss's CBS said a journalist who was killed was someone they worked with or some stupid shit when they were clearly a colleague or possibly more. I don't remember enough to be more specific, but that type of minimalism is rampant. Israel kills journalists and civilians. Oh shit, civilian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
- fc417fc802 7mo ago
  And here I thought aljazeera was a respectable journalistic outfit. They certainly seem to be doing better than most of the corporate US media by my estimate. Perhaps you should back up your mud slinging?
  - jameshilliard 6mo ago
    > And here I thought aljazeera was a respectable journalistic outfit. While they may do some legitimate journalism they are well known for highly biased articles especially when it comes to anything relating to the middle east. > They certainly seem to be doing better than most of the corporate US media by my estimate. In what way? News organizations in the US like CNN certainly have higher standards than aljazeera. > Perhaps you should back up your mud slinging? Journalists who did work for aljazeera even held hostages in Gaza[0]. [0] https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525 https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525
    - alsetmusic 6mo ago
      > Journalists who did work for aljazeera even held hostages in Gaza[0]. > [0] https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525 https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-805525 Holy shit, you're right! The country murdering thousands of captive civilians and spreading proven lies about the status of hospitals as terror bases reported it, so it must be true! I'll never trust Al Jazeera again, now that I know they take hostages. That's just a really bad argument that falls flat on its face and discredits you.
      - jameshilliard 6mo ago
        > proven lies about the status of hospitals as terror bases Hospitals being used by terrorists for military purposes in Gaza is well documented fact.[0][1] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital... [1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/15/gaza-hospital-used-for-weapons-ngo-admits/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/15/gaza-hospi...