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> As far as I can tell, the US and Israel have not yet committed anything that would constitute a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_at

> As far as I can tell, the US and Israel have not yet committed anything that would constitute a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack > According to witness accounts verified by satellite-based analyses, the school was triple tapped by three distinct strikes. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-girls-killed-double-tap-strikes-minab-school https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-girls-k... > Eyewitnesses describe second blast which killed survivors as they sheltered in prayer hall

petre 7mo ago
The US didn't ratify the Rome Statute which gives them a carte blanche on war crimes. What a great club to be in, along with Russia, Israel and Sudan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Internat... Not a part of ICC, therefore no war crimes, right? And now we also have a parallel UN just because the UN has become an object of mockery due to largely the same permanent members that can veto any decision.
- yostrovs 7mo ago
  Pretending that there's international law, even a court to enforce it, is just closing one's eyes. It's all talk when the court is alone, without any police power to enforce its judgements. The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. These bureaucrats issue statements, judgements, even arrest warrants! That sounds serious. The judges even look serious.
  - Schmerika 7mo ago
    "Might makes right" is not a smart or sensible way for a sentient species to make decisions. We depend on trust and cooperation to achieve our potential. All the work being done to tear that to shreds (as imperfect as it always was) seems to hinge on the unaccountable Epstein class being allowed free reign to commit the most heinous atrocities imaginable... But we do outnumber those people, by a lot. > The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. If that were entirely true, the US wouldn't work so hard on things like the Hague Invasion act, or on sanctioning ICC judges... Or on propaganda to make people believe that 'international law' is just a sanctimonious lie.
    - yostrovs 7mo ago
      I agree with you that I wish for trust and cooperation. But that's just not the way the world is. There is no international law. There really isn't, however much we wish it to be. And therefore bringing up statutes and the ICC is just talk. It does nothing to improve the situation or to influence it in any way.
jiggawatts 7mo ago
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- Schmerika 7mo ago
  > Calling it a “school attack” implies deliberate targeting of a civilian facility. >It was obviously an error because the building used to be a military facility and is on the campus of a military base! ... No actually, being on the campus of a military base doesn't make bombing an elementary school full of children not a war crime. If it helps, try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. And I can't help but notice that you're not mentioning the 497 other targeted schools which I made you aware of.
  - jiggawatts 7mo ago
    > try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. Even if they did, and the base got bombed during a war, and it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error... then... well... it is war. Shit happens! Compare this to WWII, where all sides carpet bombed entire cities on purpose, with the deliberate aim of flattening them to rubble, civilians included. PS: Something like over half of all high-rise apartment buildings that get hit by cruise missiles is because their targeting software and/or maps are shit and not "3D enough" to account for tall buildings in the way of the actual target. Yes, that's hubris with lethal consequences, but not technically a war crime. It's merely war.
    - carstout 7mo ago
      In the UK and I assume elsewhere they do at least at the major sites. There is the onsite housing, leisure facilities and in some cases schools. Lakenheath has a couple onsite serving the various bases in the area for those wanting to stick with US curriculum vs local schools.
    - Schmerika 7mo ago
      > The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. There's no need to 'hope' against reality. This information is easily available to us both - there are tens of thousands of K-12 students on US military bases, in America and in other countries [0]. > it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error ... You're still somehow ignoring the 497 other schools targeted within these last few weeks. It's like your brain simply refuses to process that information - perhaps because it would force a perspective shift? (Spoiler alert: We are the baddies. 498 schools in 4 weeks is pretty unambiguous, especially following the US involvement in bombing basically every school in Gaza.) > it is war. Shit happens! War crimes are not excused by 'being at war'. That's not how it works. Many people here have already pointed out to you the many reasons and the many officials calling the first Iranian school bombing out as a war crime; and I highly encourage you to being to wrap your head around the fact. Defending war crimes is a deeply uncool way to spend your time. It's not good for you, or for the people reading it. 0 - https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-children-youth/what-schools-are-available-to-children-on-military-installations/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-c...

petre 7mo ago

The US didn't ratify the Rome Statute which gives them a carte blanche on war crimes. What a great club to be in, along with Russia, Israel and Sudan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Internat... Not a part of ICC, therefore no war crimes, right? And now we also have a parallel UN just because the UN has become an object of mockery due to largely the same permanent members that can veto any decision.

yostrovs 7mo ago
Pretending that there's international law, even a court to enforce it, is just closing one's eyes. It's all talk when the court is alone, without any police power to enforce its judgements. The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. These bureaucrats issue statements, judgements, even arrest warrants! That sounds serious. The judges even look serious.
- Schmerika 7mo ago
  "Might makes right" is not a smart or sensible way for a sentient species to make decisions. We depend on trust and cooperation to achieve our potential. All the work being done to tear that to shreds (as imperfect as it always was) seems to hinge on the unaccountable Epstein class being allowed free reign to commit the most heinous atrocities imaginable... But we do outnumber those people, by a lot. > The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. If that were entirely true, the US wouldn't work so hard on things like the Hague Invasion act, or on sanctioning ICC judges... Or on propaganda to make people believe that 'international law' is just a sanctimonious lie.
  - yostrovs 7mo ago
    I agree with you that I wish for trust and cooperation. But that's just not the way the world is. There is no international law. There really isn't, however much we wish it to be. And therefore bringing up statutes and the ICC is just talk. It does nothing to improve the situation or to influence it in any way.

jiggawatts 7mo ago

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Schmerika 7mo ago
> Calling it a “school attack” implies deliberate targeting of a civilian facility. >It was obviously an error because the building used to be a military facility and is on the campus of a military base! ... No actually, being on the campus of a military base doesn't make bombing an elementary school full of children not a war crime. If it helps, try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. And I can't help but notice that you're not mentioning the 497 other targeted schools which I made you aware of.
- jiggawatts 7mo ago
  > try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. Even if they did, and the base got bombed during a war, and it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error... then... well... it is war. Shit happens! Compare this to WWII, where all sides carpet bombed entire cities on purpose, with the deliberate aim of flattening them to rubble, civilians included. PS: Something like over half of all high-rise apartment buildings that get hit by cruise missiles is because their targeting software and/or maps are shit and not "3D enough" to account for tall buildings in the way of the actual target. Yes, that's hubris with lethal consequences, but not technically a war crime. It's merely war.
  - carstout 7mo ago
    In the UK and I assume elsewhere they do at least at the major sites. There is the onsite housing, leisure facilities and in some cases schools. Lakenheath has a couple onsite serving the various bases in the area for those wanting to stick with US curriculum vs local schools.
  - Schmerika 7mo ago
    > The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. There's no need to 'hope' against reality. This information is easily available to us both - there are tens of thousands of K-12 students on US military bases, in America and in other countries [0]. > it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error ... You're still somehow ignoring the 497 other schools targeted within these last few weeks. It's like your brain simply refuses to process that information - perhaps because it would force a perspective shift? (Spoiler alert: We are the baddies. 498 schools in 4 weeks is pretty unambiguous, especially following the US involvement in bombing basically every school in Gaza.) > it is war. Shit happens! War crimes are not excused by 'being at war'. That's not how it works. Many people here have already pointed out to you the many reasons and the many officials calling the first Iranian school bombing out as a war crime; and I highly encourage you to being to wrap your head around the fact. Defending war crimes is a deeply uncool way to spend your time. It's not good for you, or for the people reading it. 0 - https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-children-youth/what-schools-are-available-to-children-on-military-installations/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-c...