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> hot water, heating Not really. Urban flats frequently got resistive heating (rather than heat pumps) but when France finally phased out furnace oil it phase

> hot water, heating Not really. Urban flats frequently got resistive heating (rather than heat pumps) but when France finally phased out furnace oil it phased in gas heating (again instead of heat pumps). And EU grid integration was mostly a boon, at least to EDF, with the country able to export its large stable supply and arbitrage between its neighbours. It largely missed its opportunity and should have ramped up electric use way more aggressively in the 90s. And built up research labs and industrial and practical knowledge in heat pumps and batteries tech.

mytailorisrich 7mo ago
What "not really"? Electric hot water and electric heating is very common. Almost 40% of homes have electric heating and that's the top heating type [1]... [1] https://franfinance.com/les-francais-et-le-chauffage-de-leur-logement-une-nouvelle-etude-du-barhometre-franfinance https://franfinance.com/les-francais-et-le-chauffage-de-leur...
- masklinn 7mo ago
  > Almost 40% of homes have electric heating and that's the top heating type It's 40% of households not homes, and per your link it's 55% of rentals. That's the urban flats I mentioned, they use inefficient resistive heating because that's cheap to install (no plumbing and no vents, just the electrician adding a circuit per radiator from the box).
  - mytailorisrich 7mo ago
    So, leaving aside your nitpicking about households vs homes (which are synonymous here), you agree with me then? What was the point of your comments?
    - masklinn 7mo ago
      > So, leaving aside your nitpicking about households vs homes (which are synonymous here) The mistranslation gives the incorrect impression that owners have migrated their personal residences to resistive heating and that this is the normal heating method for the country. Landlords cheaping out on heating is a completely different situation, and does not support your assertion. Especially with (again per your link) renters are significantly less satisfied with their heating situation than owners. > you agree with me then No.
      - mytailorisrich 7mo ago
        I think you are either being argumentative for the sake of it, or you are confused about the meaning of "homes", or both. I think both.

mytailorisrich 7mo ago

What "not really"? Electric hot water and electric heating is very common. Almost 40% of homes have electric heating and that's the top heating type [1]... [1] https://franfinance.com/les-francais-et-le-chauffage-de-leur-logement-une-nouvelle-etude-du-barhometre-franfinance https://franfinance.com/les-francais-et-le-chauffage-de-leur...

masklinn 7mo ago
> Almost 40% of homes have electric heating and that's the top heating type It's 40% of households not homes, and per your link it's 55% of rentals. That's the urban flats I mentioned, they use inefficient resistive heating because that's cheap to install (no plumbing and no vents, just the electrician adding a circuit per radiator from the box).
- mytailorisrich 7mo ago
  So, leaving aside your nitpicking about households vs homes (which are synonymous here), you agree with me then? What was the point of your comments?
  - masklinn 7mo ago
    > So, leaving aside your nitpicking about households vs homes (which are synonymous here) The mistranslation gives the incorrect impression that owners have migrated their personal residences to resistive heating and that this is the normal heating method for the country. Landlords cheaping out on heating is a completely different situation, and does not support your assertion. Especially with (again per your link) renters are significantly less satisfied with their heating situation than owners. > you agree with me then No.
    - mytailorisrich 7mo ago
      I think you are either being argumentative for the sake of it, or you are confused about the meaning of "homes", or both. I think both.