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> an embittered Iran Very little to nothing about why Iran might be 'feeling bitter'. Amazing how our media can simply glide right over hundreds of war crimes

> an embittered Iran Very little to nothing about why Iran might be 'feeling bitter'. Amazing how our media can simply glide right over hundreds of war crimes and atrocities.

jiggawatts 7mo ago
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- ekjhgkejhgk 7mo ago
  > As far as I can tell, the US and Israel have not yet committed anything that would constitute a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack > According to witness accounts verified by satellite-based analyses, the school was triple tapped by three distinct strikes. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-girls-killed-double-tap-strikes-minab-school https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-girls-k... > Eyewitnesses describe second blast which killed survivors as they sheltered in prayer hall
  - petre 7mo ago
    The US didn't ratify the Rome Statute which gives them a carte blanche on war crimes. What a great club to be in, along with Russia, Israel and Sudan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Internat... Not a part of ICC, therefore no war crimes, right? And now we also have a parallel UN just because the UN has become an object of mockery due to largely the same permanent members that can veto any decision.
    - yostrovs 7mo ago
      Pretending that there's international law, even a court to enforce it, is just closing one's eyes. It's all talk when the court is alone, without any police power to enforce its judgements. The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. These bureaucrats issue statements, judgements, even arrest warrants! That sounds serious. The judges even look serious.
      - Schmerika 7mo ago
        "Might makes right" is not a smart or sensible way for a sentient species to make decisions. We depend on trust and cooperation to achieve our potential. All the work being done to tear that to shreds (as imperfect as it always was) seems to hinge on the unaccountable Epstein class being allowed free reign to commit the most heinous atrocities imaginable... But we do outnumber those people, by a lot. > The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. If that were entirely true, the US wouldn't work so hard on things like the Hague Invasion act, or on sanctioning ICC judges... Or on propaganda to make people believe that 'international law' is just a sanctimonious lie.
        yostrovs 7mo ago
        I agree with you that I wish for trust and cooperation. But that's just not the way the world is. There is no international law. There really isn't, however much we wish it to be. And therefore bringing up statutes and the ICC is just talk. It does nothing to improve the situation or to influence it in any way.
  - jiggawatts 7mo ago
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    - Schmerika 7mo ago
      > Calling it a “school attack” implies deliberate targeting of a civilian facility. >It was obviously an error because the building used to be a military facility and is on the campus of a military base! ... No actually, being on the campus of a military base doesn't make bombing an elementary school full of children not a war crime. If it helps, try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. And I can't help but notice that you're not mentioning the 497 other targeted schools which I made you aware of.
      - jiggawatts 7mo ago
        > try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. Even if they did, and the base got bombed during a war, and it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error... then... well... it is war. Shit happens! Compare this to WWII, where all sides carpet bombed entire cities on purpose, with the deliberate aim of flattening them to rubble, civilians included. PS: Something like over half of all high-rise apartment buildings that get hit by cruise missiles is because their targeting software and/or maps are shit and not "3D enough" to account for tall buildings in the way of the actual target. Yes, that's hubris with lethal consequences, but not technically a war crime. It's merely war.
        carstout 7mo ago
        In the UK and I assume elsewhere they do at least at the major sites. There is the onsite housing, leisure facilities and in some cases schools. Lakenheath has a couple onsite serving the various bases in the area for those wanting to stick with US curriculum vs local schools.
        Schmerika 7mo ago
        > The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. There's no need to 'hope' against reality. This information is easily available to us both - there are tens of thousands of K-12 students on US military bases, in America and in other countries [0]. > it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error ... You're still somehow ignoring the 497 other schools targeted within these last few weeks. It's like your brain simply refuses to process that information - perhaps because it would force a perspective shift? (Spoiler alert: We are the baddies. 498 schools in 4 weeks is pretty unambiguous, especially following the US involvement in bombing basically every school in Gaza.) > it is war. Shit happens! War crimes are not excused by 'being at war'. That's not how it works. Many people here have already pointed out to you the many reasons and the many officials calling the first Iranian school bombing out as a war crime; and I highly encourage you to being to wrap your head around the fact. Defending war crimes is a deeply uncool way to spend your time. It's not good for you, or for the people reading it. 0 - https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-children-youth/what-schools-are-available-to-children-on-military-installations/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-c...
- impossiblefork 7mo ago
  There is an Iranian claim of a US attack on a desalination plant on the island of Qeshm that has been reported in Chinese media. There is also a statement from Hegseth saying that no quarter shall be given, which is forbidden even as a statement.
  - srean 7mo ago
    He seems to have gone all in on Joshua and Deuteronomy.
  - AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
    I agree that the act of carrying out Hesgeth's statement would be a war crime. But can you elaborate on "forbidden even as a statement"?
    - impossiblefork 7mo ago
      The second Hague convention article 23 (d) states that "In addition to the prohibitions provided by special Conventions, it is especially forbidden [...] (d) To declare that no quarter will be given".
- Schmerika 7mo ago
  > the US and Israel have not yet committed anything that would constitute a war crime. Targeting and blowing up schools full of little girls [0] is in fact an atrocity and a war crime. Double and triple tapping it? War crimes upon war crimes. You probably heard about that, and I've no idea why you're not mentioning it... However, did you hear about the other 497 schools that have been targeted [1]? Or the 281 medical centers, hospitals, and pharmacies? The 17 Red Crescent bases, and 94 ambulances and rescue vehicles that have also been damaged [1]? 498 schools. Think on that for a minute. Think about it for 498 minutes. Blowing up unarmed ships, and then leaving their soldiers to drown without providing aid [2] - also a war crime; also an atrocity. Ecocide, giving residents of Tehran generations of "cardiovascular disease, cognitive impairment, DNA damage and cancer" - war crime [3]. The US is putting ICC judges under sanctions for daring to investigate their war crimes [4]. We've had a longstanding policy of threatening "to use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any person described in subsection (b) who is being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court" [5]. And all of that isn't even touching what the US and Israel have been responsible for in Gaza, a bipartisan live-streamed genocide and holocaust. > the combined force are not “carpet bombing” Tell that to Rafah [6]. > Trump threatened one (blowing up civilian power stations), but he hasn’t followed through. You certain about that? [7] I don't know where you are getting your information, but you really need to get out of your bubble if you think all this is just propaganda. 0 - https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/u-s-responsible-for-killing-over-100-children-in-iran-school-attack/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/u-s-responsible-for-killing-... 1 - https://truthout.org/articles/us-israeli-attacks-have-damaged-nearly-500-schools-300-health-centers-in-iran/ https://truthout.org/articles/us-israeli-attacks-have-damage... 2 - https://x.com/KanwalSibal/status/2029438199546954240 https://x.com/KanwalSibal/status/2029438199546954240 3 - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/tehran-toxic-cloud-satellite-image-oil-fires https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/tehran-toxic-c... 4 - https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/international-criminal-court-deplores-new-sanctions-us-administration-against-icc-officials https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/international-criminal-court-de... 5 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr... 6 - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C2Xt05-i19E https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C2Xt05-i19E 7 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bushehr-nuclear-plant-hit-again-as-pentagon-deploys-82nd-airborne-day-25-of-iran-war-escalates/ar-AA1ZkyH3 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bushehr-nuclear-plant-h...
- csomar 7mo ago
  I don't have much time to look up the historical list but here one in the last 24h:https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/university-of-science-and-technology-targeted-in-iran-report/3882549 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/university-of-science-a... One thing you can at least respect about this administration is that they call a spade a spade. All the "war crimes," "human rights," "equal justice" talk from the previous administrations was nauseating.
- ZunarJ5 7mo ago
  They bombed a school full of children. Are you serious?
  - jiggawatts 7mo ago
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    - ZunarJ5 7mo ago
      > Shannon Bosch, an associate professor of law at Edith Cowan University, analyzed the strike from the perspective of international humanitarian law (IHL). Without drawing firm conclusions, Bosch noted that schools and children under 18 are especially protected under IHL, concluding that "the legality of that strike turns on whether the expected harm to children and the school was excessive compared to the military advantage gained by striking the target."[36] UN human rights experts characterized the strike as a potential war crime under the Rome Statute.[87] Regarding the attack, international humanitarian law expert Janina Dill said that attackers are required to "verify the status" of targets to avoid harming civilians. Beth Van Schaack said the US "should have known that a school was in the vicinity".[30] HRW said the same, adding that beyond the laws of war requiring precise intelligence, the strike's proximity to civilian infrastructure required advanced notice.[3] From the wikipedia. Honestly with this kind of disregard for human life exhibited by the above commenter, the aggressors deserve everything thats coming to them. Absolutely disgusting.
      - yostrovs 7mo ago
        What about unguided bombs? When they strike an apartment building, the person firing it can't be guilty. He never aimed at an apartment building. Right? The real rule here is that only the people with precision weapons can be seen as guilty.
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        ZunarJ5 7mo ago
- maxerickson 7mo ago
  Threatening collective punishment (intimidation) is an article 33 war crime.
pjmlp 7mo ago
War crimes only counts as such from the looser side. Plus whatever gets discussed at United Nations is proven to be only rhetoric.

> an embittered Iran Very little to nothing about why Iran might be 'feeling bitter'. Amazing how our media can simply glide right over hundreds of war crimes and atrocities.

jiggawatts 7mo ago

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ekjhgkejhgk 7mo ago
> As far as I can tell, the US and Israel have not yet committed anything that would constitute a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack > According to witness accounts verified by satellite-based analyses, the school was triple tapped by three distinct strikes. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-girls-killed-double-tap-strikes-minab-school https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-girls-k... > Eyewitnesses describe second blast which killed survivors as they sheltered in prayer hall
- petre 7mo ago
  The US didn't ratify the Rome Statute which gives them a carte blanche on war crimes. What a great club to be in, along with Russia, Israel and Sudan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Internat... Not a part of ICC, therefore no war crimes, right? And now we also have a parallel UN just because the UN has become an object of mockery due to largely the same permanent members that can veto any decision.
  - yostrovs 7mo ago
    Pretending that there's international law, even a court to enforce it, is just closing one's eyes. It's all talk when the court is alone, without any police power to enforce its judgements. The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. These bureaucrats issue statements, judgements, even arrest warrants! That sounds serious. The judges even look serious.
    - Schmerika 7mo ago
      "Might makes right" is not a smart or sensible way for a sentient species to make decisions. We depend on trust and cooperation to achieve our potential. All the work being done to tear that to shreds (as imperfect as it always was) seems to hinge on the unaccountable Epstein class being allowed free reign to commit the most heinous atrocities imaginable... But we do outnumber those people, by a lot. > The Rome Statute and the ICC exist to make people feel better, to have people believe that the world is just thanks to a few brave bureaucrats. If that were entirely true, the US wouldn't work so hard on things like the Hague Invasion act, or on sanctioning ICC judges... Or on propaganda to make people believe that 'international law' is just a sanctimonious lie.
      - yostrovs 7mo ago
        I agree with you that I wish for trust and cooperation. But that's just not the way the world is. There is no international law. There really isn't, however much we wish it to be. And therefore bringing up statutes and the ICC is just talk. It does nothing to improve the situation or to influence it in any way.
- jiggawatts 7mo ago
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  - Schmerika 7mo ago
    > Calling it a “school attack” implies deliberate targeting of a civilian facility. >It was obviously an error because the building used to be a military facility and is on the campus of a military base! ... No actually, being on the campus of a military base doesn't make bombing an elementary school full of children not a war crime. If it helps, try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. And I can't help but notice that you're not mentioning the 497 other targeted schools which I made you aware of.
    - jiggawatts 7mo ago
      > try imagining Iran bombing a school on a US military base. The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. Even if they did, and the base got bombed during a war, and it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error... then... well... it is war. Shit happens! Compare this to WWII, where all sides carpet bombed entire cities on purpose, with the deliberate aim of flattening them to rubble, civilians included. PS: Something like over half of all high-rise apartment buildings that get hit by cruise missiles is because their targeting software and/or maps are shit and not "3D enough" to account for tall buildings in the way of the actual target. Yes, that's hubris with lethal consequences, but not technically a war crime. It's merely war.
      - carstout 7mo ago
        In the UK and I assume elsewhere they do at least at the major sites. There is the onsite housing, leisure facilities and in some cases schools. Lakenheath has a couple onsite serving the various bases in the area for those wanting to stick with US curriculum vs local schools.
      - Schmerika 7mo ago
        > The US doesn't generally intermingle their children with their military bases... I hope. There's no need to 'hope' against reality. This information is easily available to us both - there are tens of thousands of K-12 students on US military bases, in America and in other countries [0]. > it was obviously a targeting/aiming/intelligence error ... You're still somehow ignoring the 497 other schools targeted within these last few weeks. It's like your brain simply refuses to process that information - perhaps because it would force a perspective shift? (Spoiler alert: We are the baddies. 498 schools in 4 weeks is pretty unambiguous, especially following the US involvement in bombing basically every school in Gaza.) > it is war. Shit happens! War crimes are not excused by 'being at war'. That's not how it works. Many people here have already pointed out to you the many reasons and the many officials calling the first Iranian school bombing out as a war crime; and I highly encourage you to being to wrap your head around the fact. Defending war crimes is a deeply uncool way to spend your time. It's not good for you, or for the people reading it. 0 - https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-children-youth/what-schools-are-available-to-children-on-military-installations/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-c...
impossiblefork 7mo ago
There is an Iranian claim of a US attack on a desalination plant on the island of Qeshm that has been reported in Chinese media. There is also a statement from Hegseth saying that no quarter shall be given, which is forbidden even as a statement.
- srean 7mo ago
  He seems to have gone all in on Joshua and Deuteronomy.
- AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
  I agree that the act of carrying out Hesgeth's statement would be a war crime. But can you elaborate on "forbidden even as a statement"?
  - impossiblefork 7mo ago
    The second Hague convention article 23 (d) states that "In addition to the prohibitions provided by special Conventions, it is especially forbidden [...] (d) To declare that no quarter will be given".
Schmerika 7mo ago
> the US and Israel have not yet committed anything that would constitute a war crime. Targeting and blowing up schools full of little girls [0] is in fact an atrocity and a war crime. Double and triple tapping it? War crimes upon war crimes. You probably heard about that, and I've no idea why you're not mentioning it... However, did you hear about the other 497 schools that have been targeted [1]? Or the 281 medical centers, hospitals, and pharmacies? The 17 Red Crescent bases, and 94 ambulances and rescue vehicles that have also been damaged [1]? 498 schools. Think on that for a minute. Think about it for 498 minutes. Blowing up unarmed ships, and then leaving their soldiers to drown without providing aid [2] - also a war crime; also an atrocity. Ecocide, giving residents of Tehran generations of "cardiovascular disease, cognitive impairment, DNA damage and cancer" - war crime [3]. The US is putting ICC judges under sanctions for daring to investigate their war crimes [4]. We've had a longstanding policy of threatening "to use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any person described in subsection (b) who is being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court" [5]. And all of that isn't even touching what the US and Israel have been responsible for in Gaza, a bipartisan live-streamed genocide and holocaust. > the combined force are not “carpet bombing” Tell that to Rafah [6]. > Trump threatened one (blowing up civilian power stations), but he hasn’t followed through. You certain about that? [7] I don't know where you are getting your information, but you really need to get out of your bubble if you think all this is just propaganda. 0 - https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/u-s-responsible-for-killing-over-100-children-in-iran-school-attack/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/u-s-responsible-for-killing-... 1 - https://truthout.org/articles/us-israeli-attacks-have-damaged-nearly-500-schools-300-health-centers-in-iran/ https://truthout.org/articles/us-israeli-attacks-have-damage... 2 - https://x.com/KanwalSibal/status/2029438199546954240 https://x.com/KanwalSibal/status/2029438199546954240 3 - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/tehran-toxic-cloud-satellite-image-oil-fires https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/tehran-toxic-c... 4 - https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/international-criminal-court-deplores-new-sanctions-us-administration-against-icc-officials https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/international-criminal-court-de... 5 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr... 6 - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C2Xt05-i19E https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C2Xt05-i19E 7 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bushehr-nuclear-plant-hit-again-as-pentagon-deploys-82nd-airborne-day-25-of-iran-war-escalates/ar-AA1ZkyH3 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bushehr-nuclear-plant-h...
csomar 7mo ago
I don't have much time to look up the historical list but here one in the last 24h:https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/university-of-science-and-technology-targeted-in-iran-report/3882549 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/university-of-science-a... One thing you can at least respect about this administration is that they call a spade a spade. All the "war crimes," "human rights," "equal justice" talk from the previous administrations was nauseating.
ZunarJ5 7mo ago
They bombed a school full of children. Are you serious?
- jiggawatts 7mo ago
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  - ZunarJ5 7mo ago
    > Shannon Bosch, an associate professor of law at Edith Cowan University, analyzed the strike from the perspective of international humanitarian law (IHL). Without drawing firm conclusions, Bosch noted that schools and children under 18 are especially protected under IHL, concluding that "the legality of that strike turns on whether the expected harm to children and the school was excessive compared to the military advantage gained by striking the target."[36] UN human rights experts characterized the strike as a potential war crime under the Rome Statute.[87] Regarding the attack, international humanitarian law expert Janina Dill said that attackers are required to "verify the status" of targets to avoid harming civilians. Beth Van Schaack said the US "should have known that a school was in the vicinity".[30] HRW said the same, adding that beyond the laws of war requiring precise intelligence, the strike's proximity to civilian infrastructure required advanced notice.[3] From the wikipedia. Honestly with this kind of disregard for human life exhibited by the above commenter, the aggressors deserve everything thats coming to them. Absolutely disgusting.
    - yostrovs 7mo ago
      What about unguided bombs? When they strike an apartment building, the person firing it can't be guilty. He never aimed at an apartment building. Right? The real rule here is that only the people with precision weapons can be seen as guilty.
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maxerickson 7mo ago
Threatening collective punishment (intimidation) is an article 33 war crime.

pjmlp 7mo ago

War crimes only counts as such from the looser side. Plus whatever gets discussed at United Nations is proven to be only rhetoric.