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You can put up a plant in 5 years without erroneous regulation.

by veqq 7mo ago

tpm 7mo ago
Do you have some examples of that in the last decades?
- veqq 7mo ago
  China's been building dozens of them, some going up in 4 years. It's very easy to google this. https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclear/comments/1hsvl0w/chinese_reactor_construction_charts_january_2025/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclear/comments/1hsvl0w/chinese_re...
  - tpm 7mo ago
    Going up from what date exactly? Construction start is when you already have all plans approved, permitted and financed, so 4 years from construction start is far from "putting up a plant in 5 years". So, some examples for 5 years all in?
- leonidasrup 7mo ago
  Barakah nuclear power plant in the United Arab Emirates. Build by Korea Electric Power Corporation (KEPCO). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barakah_nuclear_power_plant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barakah_nuclear_power_plant Nameplate capacity 5600 MW Construction began Unit 1: 19 July 2012 Unit 2: 16 April 2013 Unit 3: 24 September 2014 Unit 4: 30 July 2015 Commission date Unit 1: 3 August 2020 Unit 2: 14 September 2021 Unit 3: 10 October 2022 Unit 4: 23 March 2024
  - tpm 7mo ago
    That's 8-9 years of construction only.
    - leonidasrup 7mo ago
      There is a trick, you can multiple build simultaneously. Or better with a slight delay, so that construction crews (which do separate phases of construction) can move between projects and use experience gained in one build in another build. Nuclear construction requires highly skilled workers doing very high quality work. One of the biggest problems with nuclear construction in U.S. and Europe is that last significant builds have been done around 1985, companies doing nuclear construction closed or moved to other products, or moved to maintenance, upgrades of power plants. https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/reactors.html https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/reactors.html
      - tpm 6mo ago
        > There is a trick, you can multiple build simultaneously. That trick does not work for smaller countries which can't afford/don't need to build a big number of reactors. Or you have to outsource to a foreign builder which does not seem to be a best idea in today's world. Anyway, the original claim was "You can put up a plant in 5 years without erroneous regulation". It's simply not possible to do that. If you depend on continuous availability of highly skilled workers, you also have to account for their (initial and continuous) training. In addition you also have to maintain the staff which does the planning and permitting.

You can put up a plant in 5 years without erroneous regulation.

by veqq 7mo ago

You can put up a plant in 5 years without erroneous regulation.

tpm 7mo ago

Do you have some examples of that in the last decades?

veqq 7mo ago
China's been building dozens of them, some going up in 4 years. It's very easy to google this. https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclear/comments/1hsvl0w/chinese_reactor_construction_charts_january_2025/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclear/comments/1hsvl0w/chinese_re...
- tpm 7mo ago
  Going up from what date exactly? Construction start is when you already have all plans approved, permitted and financed, so 4 years from construction start is far from "putting up a plant in 5 years". So, some examples for 5 years all in?
leonidasrup 7mo ago
Barakah nuclear power plant in the United Arab Emirates. Build by Korea Electric Power Corporation (KEPCO). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barakah_nuclear_power_plant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barakah_nuclear_power_plant Nameplate capacity 5600 MW Construction began Unit 1: 19 July 2012 Unit 2: 16 April 2013 Unit 3: 24 September 2014 Unit 4: 30 July 2015 Commission date Unit 1: 3 August 2020 Unit 2: 14 September 2021 Unit 3: 10 October 2022 Unit 4: 23 March 2024
- tpm 7mo ago
  That's 8-9 years of construction only.
  - leonidasrup 7mo ago
    There is a trick, you can multiple build simultaneously. Or better with a slight delay, so that construction crews (which do separate phases of construction) can move between projects and use experience gained in one build in another build. Nuclear construction requires highly skilled workers doing very high quality work. One of the biggest problems with nuclear construction in U.S. and Europe is that last significant builds have been done around 1985, companies doing nuclear construction closed or moved to other products, or moved to maintenance, upgrades of power plants. https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/reactors.html https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/reactors.html
    - tpm 6mo ago
      > There is a trick, you can multiple build simultaneously. That trick does not work for smaller countries which can't afford/don't need to build a big number of reactors. Or you have to outsource to a foreign builder which does not seem to be a best idea in today's world. Anyway, the original claim was "You can put up a plant in 5 years without erroneous regulation". It's simply not possible to do that. If you depend on continuous availability of highly skilled workers, you also have to account for their (initial and continuous) training. In addition you also have to maintain the staff which does the planning and permitting.