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The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Ne

The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-israels-borders-extend-damascus https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-israels-bo... ? Or any of the politicians quotes here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

theonething 7mo ago
> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was who the Irgun was targeting. Read up and educate yourself before you speak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing If you want to go back before 1948: The Battle of Tel Hai (March 1920): Often cited as the first military confrontation between Arab and Jewish forces. It involved a clash between a Palestinian Arab militia and Jewish defenders of the Tel Hai settlement. It started when a Shiite Arab militia and local Bedouin, led by Kamal al-Hussein, entered the Jewish settlement of Tel Hai. The 1920 Nebi Musa Riots: In April 1920, Arab residents attacked Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem during a religious procession. The 1921 Jaffa Riots: This started as a scuffle between two different Jewish groups. Arab onlookers mistook it as an attack against Arabs and started attacking Jews. "Dozens of British, Arab, and Jewish witnesses all reported that Arab men bearing clubs, knives, swords, and some pistols broke into Jewish buildings and murdered their inhabitants, while women followed to loot. They attacked Jewish pedestrians and destroyed Jewish homes and stores. They beat and killed Jews in their homes, including children, and in some cases split open the victims' skulls." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots_(May_1921) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots_(May_1921) And they are still doing that today. The 1929 Hebron Massacre: Prompted by rumors that Jews intended to seize the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Arab mobs killed 67 Jews in Hebron. And again, you cherry pick some far right people and project them on to all of Israel. And you totally ignore the fact that early on the Jews were willing to compromise with a two state solution, but the Arabs were not willing. Today, 75% of Palestinians support the murder, rape and kidnapping of festival attendees, families and children. That plainly shows what kind of people they are and why Israel needs to defend itself.
- donkeybeer 7mo ago
  Why not, I cite these far right figures because these far right figures were instrumental in the creation of your country, and are still revered by many including officially. The Irgun was targeting many things, they were of course ingrates who hated the Brits that had gifted their own colonial land to these frauds for free, but they were also conducting terroristic operations against arabs. It's all very simple really, Israel was doing tactics that were morally acceptable in the 1800s but had fallen out of fashion by mid 19th century. It's vety simple, just answer this. Where are the upto 3 to 4 previous generations of most current Israelis from. Are they from the Levant or are they from Europe? And if Europe, did they migrate peacefully to an existing country or take over lands someone else was living in?
  - theonething 6mo ago
    > did they migrate peacefully to an existing country or take over lands someone else was living in? The former. They legally bought land from Arab landowners. If the Arabs didn't want them there, they shouldn't have accepted their money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palest...
    - theonething 6mo ago
      huh, no response to this point donkeybeer?
      - donkeybeer 6mo ago
        Happy to say the 6.6% of those who can show legal documentation of a valid purchase should stay unharmed (as long as they aren't military combatants of course). 6.6% is not of course and quite far from 100%. Where are the rest? The ones who don't have legal papers of purchase and whose immediate ancestors 2 to 3 generations back are in Europe? How do you think they managed to squat on land that isn't theirs, where they never lived in, and where they didn't have any legal deeds of sale?
- 7mo ago

theonething 7mo ago

> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was who the Irgun was targeting. Read up and educate yourself before you speak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing If you want to go back before 1948: The Battle of Tel Hai (March 1920): Often cited as the first military confrontation between Arab and Jewish forces. It involved a clash between a Palestinian Arab militia and Jewish defenders of the Tel Hai settlement. It started when a Shiite Arab militia and local Bedouin, led by Kamal al-Hussein, entered the Jewish settlement of Tel Hai. The 1920 Nebi Musa Riots: In April 1920, Arab residents attacked Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem during a religious procession. The 1921 Jaffa Riots: This started as a scuffle between two different Jewish groups. Arab onlookers mistook it as an attack against Arabs and started attacking Jews. "Dozens of British, Arab, and Jewish witnesses all reported that Arab men bearing clubs, knives, swords, and some pistols broke into Jewish buildings and murdered their inhabitants, while women followed to loot. They attacked Jewish pedestrians and destroyed Jewish homes and stores. They beat and killed Jews in their homes, including children, and in some cases split open the victims' skulls." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots_(May_1921) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots_(May_1921) And they are still doing that today. The 1929 Hebron Massacre: Prompted by rumors that Jews intended to seize the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Arab mobs killed 67 Jews in Hebron. And again, you cherry pick some far right people and project them on to all of Israel. And you totally ignore the fact that early on the Jews were willing to compromise with a two state solution, but the Arabs were not willing. Today, 75% of Palestinians support the murder, rape and kidnapping of festival attendees, families and children. That plainly shows what kind of people they are and why Israel needs to defend itself.

donkeybeer 7mo ago
Why not, I cite these far right figures because these far right figures were instrumental in the creation of your country, and are still revered by many including officially. The Irgun was targeting many things, they were of course ingrates who hated the Brits that had gifted their own colonial land to these frauds for free, but they were also conducting terroristic operations against arabs. It's all very simple really, Israel was doing tactics that were morally acceptable in the 1800s but had fallen out of fashion by mid 19th century. It's vety simple, just answer this. Where are the upto 3 to 4 previous generations of most current Israelis from. Are they from the Levant or are they from Europe? And if Europe, did they migrate peacefully to an existing country or take over lands someone else was living in?
- theonething 6mo ago
  > did they migrate peacefully to an existing country or take over lands someone else was living in? The former. They legally bought land from Arab landowners. If the Arabs didn't want them there, they shouldn't have accepted their money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palest...
  - theonething 6mo ago
    huh, no response to this point donkeybeer?
    - donkeybeer 6mo ago
      Happy to say the 6.6% of those who can show legal documentation of a valid purchase should stay unharmed (as long as they aren't military combatants of course). 6.6% is not of course and quite far from 100%. Where are the rest? The ones who don't have legal papers of purchase and whose immediate ancestors 2 to 3 generations back are in Europe? How do you think they managed to squat on land that isn't theirs, where they never lived in, and where they didn't have any legal deeds of sale?
7mo ago