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Foreigners were coming to Slovenia just to buy gas? In such quantities that it strained infrastructure? That definitely sounds like something that happened. A

Foreigners were coming to Slovenia just to buy gas? In such quantities that it strained infrastructure? That definitely sounds like something that happened. As if "multiple gas cans" wouldn't still be well under the 50 liter/day limit.

edgarvaldes 7mo ago
No numbers provided, but from TFA: >In Slovenia, this has resulted in so-called "fuel tourism", as drivers from neighbouring countries, particularly Austria, take advantage of the lower, regulated prices here.
- margalabargala 7mo ago
  "Drivers" doing this isn't solved by a 50 liter limit.
Detrytus 7mo ago
Well, Slovenia is a small country and has land borders with many others. Imagine that gas in New Jersey was $1 per gallon cheaper than in New York and Pennsylvania. I guess a lot of people would drive to NJ gas stations.
- ajsnigrutin 7mo ago
  Yep And i'm saying that as a guy who drives to italy to buy pasta, booze and parmesan cheese. Two bottles of jack daniels and the cost of gas is covered by the price difference (well... not anymore).
  - lostlogin 7mo ago
    A European buying American booze? I thought that had stopped?
    - School-Cotton 7mo ago
      Not at all. Some Europeans have indeed boycotted American goods but Europe is still a very important market for Jack. I suspect these boycotts are far less common than you would believe from reading Reddit and so on. The vast majority of people in any country don't really care about politics and just buy whatever they like.
    - ajsnigrutin 7mo ago
      and all the twitter democrats have moved to canada, right? :)
ajsnigrutin 7mo ago
Yes, mostly italians and austrians https://svet24.si/novice/slovenija/gorivo-dizel-bencinski-servis-omejitev-gneca-petrol-mol-1886943 https://svet24.si/novice/slovenija/gorivo-dizel-bencinski-se... https://sobotainfo.com/novica/lokalno/foto-video-neverjetna-gneca-na-gorickem-kolona-za-tankanje-se-vije-po-cesti/342052 https://sobotainfo.com/novica/lokalno/foto-video-neverjetna-... https://sobotainfo.com/novica/globalno/video-avstrijci-k-nam-mi-k-madzarom-poglejte-zakaj-so-se-pomurci-po-gorivo-odpravili-cez-mejo/341951 https://sobotainfo.com/novica/globalno/video-avstrijci-k-nam... https://www.prlekija-on.net/lokalno/40253/ponekod-zmanjkalo-dizla-tudi-na-nekaterih-crpalkah-v-ljutomeru https://www.prlekija-on.net/lokalno/40253/ponekod-zmanjkalo-... And it's not the first time: https://vecer.com/slovenija/izredne-razmere-zaradi-navala-na-crpalke-ob-meji-z-italijo-10275516 https://vecer.com/slovenija/izredne-razmere-zaradi-navala-na...
iammjm 7mo ago
Slovenia is a small country with 2 million people, bordering countries with a total of over 82 million people. The neighbors are also relatively rich countries, such as Austria and Italy
- margalabargala 7mo ago
  Those are just statistics and don't have anything to do with gas. Canada is a country of 35 million bordering a rich country of 350 million.
  - lostlogin 7mo ago
    Driving over a border in Europe happens without you necessarily noticing. That isn’t true of US borders.
  - School-Cotton 7mo ago
    Yes and if (1) gas in Canada were cheaper than in the US, and (2) the border between the countries was completely open, then you’d indeed see people going to Canada to buy gas.
    - margalabargala 7mo ago
      I'm sure there's plenty of border crossings for cheaper goods. I'm skeptical this happens in such numbers as to strain national infrastructure. Tellingly, the ration put in place applies to Slovenian citizens, not just foreigners. Which should tell you something about "who is being blamed" vs "what solves the problem".
      - Symbiote 7mo ago
        It would probably be illegal under EU law to discriminate between residents and non residents of Slovenia
      - kolinko 7mo ago
        Did you travel in Europe? Even without crisis, gas stations are often way busier on the cheaper country's border than more expensive. My friends living in Switzerland (near the border) always go to Germany to fuel up. And, even without a crisis, gas stations on the cheaper sides of borders are often way more crowded than on the other side. Also, keep in mind that Slovenia is roughly the size of Los Angeles. Or not much wider than Long Island. If there fuel was 30% cheaper on one side of Long Island, than on the other, I'm sure plenty of people wouldn't think twice about that.
throwawaytea 7mo ago
My family with 3 people, two dirt bikes, and a gas generator for camping owns four 5 gallon gas cans. So I alone without trying can fit 80L without even filling up my car.

edgarvaldes 7mo ago

No numbers provided, but from TFA: >In Slovenia, this has resulted in so-called "fuel tourism", as drivers from neighbouring countries, particularly Austria, take advantage of the lower, regulated prices here.

margalabargala 7mo ago
"Drivers" doing this isn't solved by a 50 liter limit.

Detrytus 7mo ago

Well, Slovenia is a small country and has land borders with many others. Imagine that gas in New Jersey was $1 per gallon cheaper than in New York and Pennsylvania. I guess a lot of people would drive to NJ gas stations.

ajsnigrutin 7mo ago
Yep And i'm saying that as a guy who drives to italy to buy pasta, booze and parmesan cheese. Two bottles of jack daniels and the cost of gas is covered by the price difference (well... not anymore).
- lostlogin 7mo ago
  A European buying American booze? I thought that had stopped?
  - School-Cotton 7mo ago
    Not at all. Some Europeans have indeed boycotted American goods but Europe is still a very important market for Jack. I suspect these boycotts are far less common than you would believe from reading Reddit and so on. The vast majority of people in any country don't really care about politics and just buy whatever they like.
  - ajsnigrutin 7mo ago
    and all the twitter democrats have moved to canada, right? :)

ajsnigrutin 7mo ago

Yes, mostly italians and austrians https://svet24.si/novice/slovenija/gorivo-dizel-bencinski-servis-omejitev-gneca-petrol-mol-1886943 https://svet24.si/novice/slovenija/gorivo-dizel-bencinski-se... https://sobotainfo.com/novica/lokalno/foto-video-neverjetna-gneca-na-gorickem-kolona-za-tankanje-se-vije-po-cesti/342052 https://sobotainfo.com/novica/lokalno/foto-video-neverjetna-... https://sobotainfo.com/novica/globalno/video-avstrijci-k-nam-mi-k-madzarom-poglejte-zakaj-so-se-pomurci-po-gorivo-odpravili-cez-mejo/341951 https://sobotainfo.com/novica/globalno/video-avstrijci-k-nam... https://www.prlekija-on.net/lokalno/40253/ponekod-zmanjkalo-dizla-tudi-na-nekaterih-crpalkah-v-ljutomeru https://www.prlekija-on.net/lokalno/40253/ponekod-zmanjkalo-... And it's not the first time: https://vecer.com/slovenija/izredne-razmere-zaradi-navala-na-crpalke-ob-meji-z-italijo-10275516 https://vecer.com/slovenija/izredne-razmere-zaradi-navala-na...

iammjm 7mo ago

Slovenia is a small country with 2 million people, bordering countries with a total of over 82 million people. The neighbors are also relatively rich countries, such as Austria and Italy

margalabargala 7mo ago
Those are just statistics and don't have anything to do with gas. Canada is a country of 35 million bordering a rich country of 350 million.
- lostlogin 7mo ago
  Driving over a border in Europe happens without you necessarily noticing. That isn’t true of US borders.
- School-Cotton 7mo ago
  Yes and if (1) gas in Canada were cheaper than in the US, and (2) the border between the countries was completely open, then you’d indeed see people going to Canada to buy gas.
  - margalabargala 7mo ago
    I'm sure there's plenty of border crossings for cheaper goods. I'm skeptical this happens in such numbers as to strain national infrastructure. Tellingly, the ration put in place applies to Slovenian citizens, not just foreigners. Which should tell you something about "who is being blamed" vs "what solves the problem".
    - Symbiote 7mo ago
      It would probably be illegal under EU law to discriminate between residents and non residents of Slovenia
    - kolinko 7mo ago
      Did you travel in Europe? Even without crisis, gas stations are often way busier on the cheaper country's border than more expensive. My friends living in Switzerland (near the border) always go to Germany to fuel up. And, even without a crisis, gas stations on the cheaper sides of borders are often way more crowded than on the other side. Also, keep in mind that Slovenia is roughly the size of Los Angeles. Or not much wider than Long Island. If there fuel was 30% cheaper on one side of Long Island, than on the other, I'm sure plenty of people wouldn't think twice about that.

throwawaytea 7mo ago

My family with 3 people, two dirt bikes, and a gas generator for camping owns four 5 gallon gas cans. So I alone without trying can fit 80L without even filling up my car.