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I disagree as it shows a fundamental flaw in terms of separation of concerns that's probably manifest throughout the operating system. Or to stay it another wa

I disagree as it shows a fundamental flaw in terms of separation of concerns that's probably manifest throughout the operating system. Or to stay it another way, if we see shit like this then we know the whole thing is a hack.

amarant 7mo ago
Hmm, that's a good point actually! Hadn't considered that!
- stingraycharles 7mo ago
  It’s like the famous artist putting a clause in a contract that they wanted bowls of M&Ms with the blue ones removed. Not because they necessarily cared, but because it functions as an easy-to-verify proxy for whether the venue actually read the contract.
  - scelerat 7mo ago
    The artist was the band Van Halen; the forbidden color was brown https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/
brailsafe 7mo ago
Eh, it might be or it might not, why is that a valid indication that everything else is wack? There certainly are other things that are bad, maybe many, evidently, but I don't think the corner problem is a fair indicator of that exactly. Numerous things can be discretely bad and poorly directed without there being some ebola virus of bad throughout
justonceokay 7mo ago
That’s funny to call Mac OS a hack compared to windows. Now windows is trying to be backward compatible with DOS and that’s… something. But when we read blog posts explaining why things are how they are in windows i always get the heebie jeebies.
- intrasight 7mo ago
  > compared to Windows I never said that
  - justonceokay 7mo ago
    Well sure we can compare it to niche OS like Linux or vaporware. But without comparison then we probably aren’t taking into account the real life complexity of a desktop OS. As a related anecdote, my friend said my car was ugly. I asked him what cars he thought looked good. He said “I don’t like cars”. As a result I realized his opinion was worthless
    - bigyabai 7mo ago
      You can compare it to prior versions of macOS, if you insist on assessing it from a relativistic standpoint. Apple didn't have this issue 10 years ago.
      - DavidPiper 7mo ago
        Apple didn't have this issue 1 year ago :-)
    - alpaca128 7mo ago
      When a computer doesn't boot you don't need to compare it to another to see that it's broken. Some things are just obvious without comparison.
    - master-lincoln 7mo ago
      Calling linux niche is funny. Most used OS on the planet. I guess you are only interested in the desktop looks part which on Linux is done by different window managers (like KDE, Gnome, Sway, ...) which can compete with MacOS in my view. I was recently forced to switch from Gnome to MacOS Tahoe and the UX is so bad it's frustrating. Mission Control has no features apart from switching windows it seems (can not close windows, not change dock icons which all works on Gnome). Password fields often have no option to view the cleartext entered. This is especially confusing because symbols that I used daily are suddenly not printed on my keyboard anymore and I have to memorize shortcuts to enter them. In finder I see no way to go to the parent folder, isn't that something people on macs do? It just feels like it's years behind open source alternatives... Concerning your car story: have you tried other Operating systems? Otherwise your opinion might be worthless here...

amarant 7mo ago

Hmm, that's a good point actually! Hadn't considered that!

stingraycharles 7mo ago
It’s like the famous artist putting a clause in a contract that they wanted bowls of M&Ms with the blue ones removed. Not because they necessarily cared, but because it functions as an easy-to-verify proxy for whether the venue actually read the contract.
- scelerat 7mo ago
  The artist was the band Van Halen; the forbidden color was brown https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/

brailsafe 7mo ago

Eh, it might be or it might not, why is that a valid indication that everything else is wack? There certainly are other things that are bad, maybe many, evidently, but I don't think the corner problem is a fair indicator of that exactly. Numerous things can be discretely bad and poorly directed without there being some ebola virus of bad throughout

justonceokay 7mo ago

That’s funny to call Mac OS a hack compared to windows. Now windows is trying to be backward compatible with DOS and that’s… something. But when we read blog posts explaining why things are how they are in windows i always get the heebie jeebies.

intrasight 7mo ago
> compared to Windows I never said that
- justonceokay 7mo ago
  Well sure we can compare it to niche OS like Linux or vaporware. But without comparison then we probably aren’t taking into account the real life complexity of a desktop OS. As a related anecdote, my friend said my car was ugly. I asked him what cars he thought looked good. He said “I don’t like cars”. As a result I realized his opinion was worthless
  - bigyabai 7mo ago
    You can compare it to prior versions of macOS, if you insist on assessing it from a relativistic standpoint. Apple didn't have this issue 10 years ago.
    - DavidPiper 7mo ago
      Apple didn't have this issue 1 year ago :-)
  - alpaca128 7mo ago
    When a computer doesn't boot you don't need to compare it to another to see that it's broken. Some things are just obvious without comparison.
  - master-lincoln 7mo ago
    Calling linux niche is funny. Most used OS on the planet. I guess you are only interested in the desktop looks part which on Linux is done by different window managers (like KDE, Gnome, Sway, ...) which can compete with MacOS in my view. I was recently forced to switch from Gnome to MacOS Tahoe and the UX is so bad it's frustrating. Mission Control has no features apart from switching windows it seems (can not close windows, not change dock icons which all works on Gnome). Password fields often have no option to view the cleartext entered. This is especially confusing because symbols that I used daily are suddenly not printed on my keyboard anymore and I have to memorize shortcuts to enter them. In finder I see no way to go to the parent folder, isn't that something people on macs do? It just feels like it's years behind open source alternatives... Concerning your car story: have you tried other Operating systems? Otherwise your opinion might be worthless here...