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I think its fair to treat things that the Trump administration and the Iranian military agree on as facts. If they were distortions that favored one side, we wo

I think its fair to treat things that the Trump administration and the Iranian military agree on as facts. If they were distortions that favored one side, we would see pushback from the other. Maybe there are distortions that somehow benefit both of these parties, but it seems unlikely. At minimum, then, this was a school, the Americans bombed it, and children died as a result.

shykes 7mo ago
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- Denzel 7mo ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-missile-strike.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-m... > An ongoing [United States] military investigation has determined that the United States is responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school, according to U.S. officials and others familiar with the preliminary findings.
  - shykes 7mo ago
    That article is based on anonymous sources ("according to [people] familiar with the preliminary findings"). It doesn't mean it's wrong, but it's not an official confirmation by the US government, and it only speaks to the responsibility of the strike, not the various claims of "killed children". Those sources don't say anything about casualties, or the presence of children. The NYT does its best to make it sound like they do ("responsible for a deadly strike"), but so far the only source for how deadly it is, remains the IRGC. And the NYT happily quotes their claim that the death toll was "at least 175 people". For what it's worth, I personally believe the US is responsible for the strike. I also think the IRGC is lying about casualties, but there's no way to know for sure, and a US investigation probably won't tell us more on that point.
    - Denzel 7mo ago
      You’re acting like the U.S. government is a monolithic good faith actor right now. The current administration’s behavior is qualitatively different than past administrations. Do you also believe this administration will ever officially confirm Renee Good and Alex Pretti were not domestic terrorists? It’s hard to interpret your points charitably here.
      - shykes 7mo ago
        Is there anything I said that you believe is incorrect?

shykes 7mo ago

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Denzel 7mo ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-missile-strike.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-m... > An ongoing [United States] military investigation has determined that the United States is responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school, according to U.S. officials and others familiar with the preliminary findings.
- shykes 7mo ago
  That article is based on anonymous sources ("according to [people] familiar with the preliminary findings"). It doesn't mean it's wrong, but it's not an official confirmation by the US government, and it only speaks to the responsibility of the strike, not the various claims of "killed children". Those sources don't say anything about casualties, or the presence of children. The NYT does its best to make it sound like they do ("responsible for a deadly strike"), but so far the only source for how deadly it is, remains the IRGC. And the NYT happily quotes their claim that the death toll was "at least 175 people". For what it's worth, I personally believe the US is responsible for the strike. I also think the IRGC is lying about casualties, but there's no way to know for sure, and a US investigation probably won't tell us more on that point.
  - Denzel 7mo ago
    You’re acting like the U.S. government is a monolithic good faith actor right now. The current administration’s behavior is qualitatively different than past administrations. Do you also believe this administration will ever officially confirm Renee Good and Alex Pretti were not domestic terrorists? It’s hard to interpret your points charitably here.
    - shykes 7mo ago
      Is there anything I said that you believe is incorrect?