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by ceejayoz 8mo ago

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halJordan 8mo ago
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- ponector 8mo ago
  It's a common knowledge that people who post such comments are on putin's payrol.
  - whatsupdog 8mo ago
    Where do I collect me check? I have been doing this for free for a long time!
- gruez 8mo ago
  >No citation needed, it should be common knowledge like stopping at a stop sign. Sounds like you can't (or are unwilling) to produce evidence, and you're trying to handwave that issue away with "it's common knowledge'.
  - QuantumFunnel 8mo ago
    https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/select-communications-offences-and-concerns-over-free-speech/ https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/select-communications-off... How convenient that the government doesn't make the numbers public and then have to issue statements like this when journalists do some digging on the matter
    - gruez 8mo ago
      I don't get what you're trying to say here? Yes, there are real issues with the government arresting people for speech, and the number is going up, but that's not proof for the specific claim of "you can be imprisoned for liking a post [...]". You can't just tack on spurious claims onto a more well supported claim on the basis that the former is directionally the same as the latter.
- ceejayoz 8mo ago
  > People have been jailed for hate speech in the uk The parent poster claimed "for liking a post". The cases I've seen of "jailed for hate speech" tend to wind up having a harassment or incitement component to them. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo as an example. Hence the request for a cite. "Parlour, of Seacroft, Leeds, who called for an attack on a hotel housing refugees and asylum seekers on Facebook, became the first person to be jailed for stirring up racial hatred during the disorder." Wikipedia's "selected cases" for plain old hatefulness, similarly, seems to be all fines, no jail terms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom#Selected_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United...

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halJordan 8mo ago

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ponector 8mo ago
It's a common knowledge that people who post such comments are on putin's payrol.
- whatsupdog 8mo ago
  Where do I collect me check? I have been doing this for free for a long time!
gruez 8mo ago
>No citation needed, it should be common knowledge like stopping at a stop sign. Sounds like you can't (or are unwilling) to produce evidence, and you're trying to handwave that issue away with "it's common knowledge'.
- QuantumFunnel 8mo ago
  https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/select-communications-offences-and-concerns-over-free-speech/ https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/select-communications-off... How convenient that the government doesn't make the numbers public and then have to issue statements like this when journalists do some digging on the matter
  - gruez 8mo ago
    I don't get what you're trying to say here? Yes, there are real issues with the government arresting people for speech, and the number is going up, but that's not proof for the specific claim of "you can be imprisoned for liking a post [...]". You can't just tack on spurious claims onto a more well supported claim on the basis that the former is directionally the same as the latter.
ceejayoz 8mo ago
> People have been jailed for hate speech in the uk The parent poster claimed "for liking a post". The cases I've seen of "jailed for hate speech" tend to wind up having a harassment or incitement component to them. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo as an example. Hence the request for a cite. "Parlour, of Seacroft, Leeds, who called for an attack on a hotel housing refugees and asylum seekers on Facebook, became the first person to be jailed for stirring up racial hatred during the disorder." Wikipedia's "selected cases" for plain old hatefulness, similarly, seems to be all fines, no jail terms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom#Selected_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United...