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You're proving the point. The computer you found wins on the specs page for sure. But the proof is in the pudding; Apple makes money hand over fist because they

You're proving the point. The computer you found wins on the specs page for sure. But the proof is in the pudding; Apple makes money hand over fist because they focus on reasonable specs, and quality. The thing that kills a modern laptop is not a slow CPU or RAM on the chip; it's a cheap chassis that breaks. That's what makes people change their computer.

chocochunks 6mo ago
Apple wins on the perception of being a luxury brand. That's it.
- kstrauser 6mo ago
  That, and having a machine at this price point that people aren’t horrified to use.
  - chocochunks 6mo ago
    What makes it horrifying? Plastic? Is the only thing that's important the material it's made out of? I think there's many use cases where the Acer would be less horrifying to use than the Neo. Which device would be better for running a Linux VM for CS class homework for example?
    - kotaKat 6mo ago
      Hypervisor.framework on the Mac, personally.
      - chocochunks 6mo ago
        With half the RAM?
        ryandrake 6mo ago
        A vanishingly small number of end users (both PC and Mac) care about how much RAM they have. I'd be willing to bet that at least 75% of PC and Mac laptop owners couldn't even tell you how much RAM they have, or they mistake hard disk storage for RAM or vice versa.
    - MrDrMcCoy 6mo ago
      Why bother with a VM for Linux on the Acer? Just run it natively. There's almost nothing that actually requires Microsoft anymore, and you'll get better performance.
    - garbagewoman 6mo ago
      Its ok, your laptop is best, just go buy it already
- janalsncm 6mo ago
  It’s not just about perception. Apple doesn’t load your computer up with crapware and ads from the five different companies in the supply chain. They got away with it forever because at $600 there was no competition. I would say it’s more that Microsoft will make your $600 feel cheap, Apple will make it feel respectable.
  - autoexec 6mo ago
    > Apple doesn’t load your computer up with crapware and ads from the five different companies in the supply chain. No apple prefers to have a monopoly on ads and crapware but they're still there. The internet is filled with annoyed apple customers who want to debloat their systems: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254337272 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254337272 https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/414682/how-can-i-remove-unwanted-preinstalled-apps-from-macos https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/414682/how-can-i-r... https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/5gb-pure-bloatware-apple-intelligence-200000861.html https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/5gb-pure-bloatware-apple-... https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-debloating-thread.2278758/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-debloating-thread...
    - kstrauser 6mo ago
      You didn't read any of those, did you. They're asking about things like, literally: How can I delete the Chess app? How do I disable Spotlight? How do I remove Siri? Those are not in any way comparable to ads or Candy Crush in the start menu.
      - fsflover 6mo ago
        I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams (kirkville.com) 1178 points by cdrnsf 49 days ago | 564 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46911901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46911901 Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results (9to5mac.com) 618 points by ksec 67 days ago | 514 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46680974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46680974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46463180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46463180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46325114 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46325114
- gopher_space 6mo ago
  I have thirty years worth of old laptops in a closet. The macs all have hinges that still work. It’s nice to own things designed to not fall apart after a few years.
  - longislandguido 6mo ago
    Will you be adding the Neo to the pile in your closet? Because that's where it belongs with 8GB of RAM.
    - gopher_space 6mo ago
      Look, sometimes Apple sucks and sometimes Microsoft sucks. The only thing that sucks 100% of the time is a monoculture.
  - chocochunks 6mo ago
    Guess you didn't buy a PowerBook 5300 or a Titanium PowerBook G4, both infamous for hinge failure. Our 5300 didn't even make it to the four year mark.

chocochunks 6mo ago

Apple wins on the perception of being a luxury brand. That's it.

kstrauser 6mo ago
That, and having a machine at this price point that people aren’t horrified to use.
- chocochunks 6mo ago
  What makes it horrifying? Plastic? Is the only thing that's important the material it's made out of? I think there's many use cases where the Acer would be less horrifying to use than the Neo. Which device would be better for running a Linux VM for CS class homework for example?
  - kotaKat 6mo ago
    Hypervisor.framework on the Mac, personally.
    - chocochunks 6mo ago
      With half the RAM?
      - ryandrake 6mo ago
        A vanishingly small number of end users (both PC and Mac) care about how much RAM they have. I'd be willing to bet that at least 75% of PC and Mac laptop owners couldn't even tell you how much RAM they have, or they mistake hard disk storage for RAM or vice versa.
  - MrDrMcCoy 6mo ago
    Why bother with a VM for Linux on the Acer? Just run it natively. There's almost nothing that actually requires Microsoft anymore, and you'll get better performance.
  - garbagewoman 6mo ago
    Its ok, your laptop is best, just go buy it already
janalsncm 6mo ago
It’s not just about perception. Apple doesn’t load your computer up with crapware and ads from the five different companies in the supply chain. They got away with it forever because at $600 there was no competition. I would say it’s more that Microsoft will make your $600 feel cheap, Apple will make it feel respectable.
- autoexec 6mo ago
  > Apple doesn’t load your computer up with crapware and ads from the five different companies in the supply chain. No apple prefers to have a monopoly on ads and crapware but they're still there. The internet is filled with annoyed apple customers who want to debloat their systems: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254337272 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254337272 https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/414682/how-can-i-remove-unwanted-preinstalled-apps-from-macos https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/414682/how-can-i-r... https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/5gb-pure-bloatware-apple-intelligence-200000861.html https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/5gb-pure-bloatware-apple-... https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-debloating-thread.2278758/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-debloating-thread...
  - kstrauser 6mo ago
    You didn't read any of those, did you. They're asking about things like, literally: How can I delete the Chess app? How do I disable Spotlight? How do I remove Siri? Those are not in any way comparable to ads or Candy Crush in the start menu.
    - fsflover 6mo ago
      I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams (kirkville.com) 1178 points by cdrnsf 49 days ago | 564 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46911901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46911901 Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results (9to5mac.com) 618 points by ksec 67 days ago | 514 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46680974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46680974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46463180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46463180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46325114 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46325114
gopher_space 6mo ago
I have thirty years worth of old laptops in a closet. The macs all have hinges that still work. It’s nice to own things designed to not fall apart after a few years.
- longislandguido 6mo ago
  Will you be adding the Neo to the pile in your closet? Because that's where it belongs with 8GB of RAM.
  - gopher_space 6mo ago
    Look, sometimes Apple sucks and sometimes Microsoft sucks. The only thing that sucks 100% of the time is a monoculture.
- chocochunks 6mo ago
  Guess you didn't buy a PowerBook 5300 or a Titanium PowerBook G4, both infamous for hinge failure. Our 5300 didn't even make it to the four year mark.