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Remember when putting your entire life & business into the cloud was good because they were all offering 5 9s of uptime? Very few cases these days.. feels like
by steveBK123 7mo ago
Remember when putting your entire life & business into the cloud was good because they were all offering 5 9s of uptime?
Very few cases these days.. feels like we are lucky to get 2 9s anymore.
- bwb 7mo agoHonestly, downtime has gotten way better as one of the people behind (https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com). Compared to 10 years ago things are so much more redundant and harder to take down.
- ieie3366 7mo agoThank you finally. Tired of all the people online with anxiety who project their own personal issues by spamming this kind of doomer posts.
- MichaelZuo 7mo agoSo then why does no one offer 99.999% uptime guarantees in writing? It should be low risk to offer such guarantees then.
- staticassertion 7mo agoWell, (a) why would they? (b) "uptime" has shifted from a binary "site up/down" to "degraded performance", which itself indicates improvements to uptime since we're both pickier and more precise.
- Alifatisk 7mo agoAre we really questioning why cloud providers would offer better uptime guarantees?
- staticassertion 7mo agoYes, I'm asking why they'd lock themselves into a contract around 5 9s of uptime since the parent poster mentioned that they won't do so. Of course, AWS actually does do this in some cases and they guarantee 99.99% for most things, so it feels a bit arbitrary - 5 minutes vs an hour, roughly.
- MichaelZuo 7mo agoSo then its clearly not as trivial to achieve as you made it sound.
- staticassertion 7mo agoAre you replying to the right person?
- groby_b 7mo agoYou can certainly sign a contract for five nines SLA with cloud providers. You just won't like the price.
- MichaelZuo 7mo agoThen it’s clearly higher risk?
- Anon1096 7mo agoIf you are asking this question you don't understand what it takes to hit 5 nines in a real life measured system.
- Fishkins 7mo agoThanks for the data-based comment! Have you noticed any change in that trend in the past year or two, or is it continuing to get better?
- bwb 7mo agoNp, 2 years is harder for me to tell. We need to get more of that data public and organized, and are looking at how we can do that... We are working on some big improvements to the backend and should have some cool stuff to share later this year :)
- torginus 7mo ago'The outage of a single server is a tragedy, the outage of an entire AWS region is a statistic.' - Stalin probably
- steveBK123 7mo agoI do think it’s a choice by many CTOs to fail conventionally & collectively by delegating outage responsibility to AWS
- KellyCriterion 7mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_calculation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_c...