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We need to fight model providers trying to own memory, workflows and tooling. Don't give them an inch more of your software than needed even if there is a sligh

We need to fight model providers trying to own memory, workflows and tooling. Don't give them an inch more of your software than needed even if there is a slight inconvenience setting up.

sharemywin 7mo ago
I wish there was a company that was easy to use but wouldn't sell out in this arena.
- solaceb 7mo ago
  hi, I don’t normally promote here, but I feel compelled to ask if you’d like to test my thing. it’s a personal agent / API for creating and managing background cloud agents that I’m 100% committed to keeping open source & accessible as an alternative platform to putting all your eggs in one basket. there is also a desktop app and expanding the api to involve storage. kind of like agentic dropbox that can also do coding and has a full computer and ability to spin up N agents https://tinyfat.com https://tinyfat.com
  - kizashi 7mo ago
    Very much like the idea. Thanks for sharing. Noticed that you are pushing this fully anonymously and wanted to chat with you regarding a project that I’m building. Mind contacting me on the address in my profile?
- Bnjoroge 7mo ago
  thats like looking for a unicorn.
arrowleaf 7mo ago
Why? As a user of these tools, I love the convenience factor of having one tool rather than wrangling dozens. It's why in the past I've used an IDE (JetBrains), a language created by the provider of the IDE (Kotlin), web framework created by the same people (ktor), etc.
- jFriedensreich 7mo ago
  This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to fight for them to not get control of the other layers they are trying to grab. We are in a war, people who can still use claude code or other of their garbage tools, after anthropic threatened and shut off opencode, are very naive and ignorant.
  - sillysaurusx 7mo ago
    From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war. In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed. If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit people. Start with me. My mind is open. Why should I join? Please tie your claims concretely to this new feature. I’m interested in how adding this could erode open source software. To me they seem completely independent, and it’s a welcome change.
    - darepublic 7mo ago
      I can't remove the YouTube app off my phone. The mobile phone is a locked up landscape that hates general purpose computing that puts the owner of the device in control. In the same way the big LLM want to give you stuff for free / subsidized then become very opinionated about how you use this stuff then pave up the entire landscape and monopolize it for themselves. Screw that.
    - jFriedensreich 7mo ago
      We are at a war of defending control over our tools from AI companies that try to takeover any adjacent technology and anything that can be turned into a platform with lock- in effect. Subsidising subscriptions and locking people into their cli is just the start. "A scheduled task runs a prompt on a recurring cadence using Anthropic-managed infrastructure." >> There is no other way to read this as in this context, its just a small feature, but its a land grab to run workflows locked into their cloud not just models, we don't fall for regimes in one go but one tiny piece at a time, like the frog in the water.
andai 7mo ago
>slight inconvenience You misspelt ">95% discount relative to API pricing" ;)
tossandthrow 7mo ago
I have tasks files in the code base that Claude executes on a schedule. I can easily move to other agents.

We need to fight model providers trying to own memory, workflows and tooling. Don't give them an inch more of your software than needed even if there is a slight inconvenience setting up.

sharemywin 7mo ago

I wish there was a company that was easy to use but wouldn't sell out in this arena.

solaceb 7mo ago
hi, I don’t normally promote here, but I feel compelled to ask if you’d like to test my thing. it’s a personal agent / API for creating and managing background cloud agents that I’m 100% committed to keeping open source & accessible as an alternative platform to putting all your eggs in one basket. there is also a desktop app and expanding the api to involve storage. kind of like agentic dropbox that can also do coding and has a full computer and ability to spin up N agents https://tinyfat.com https://tinyfat.com
- kizashi 7mo ago
  Very much like the idea. Thanks for sharing. Noticed that you are pushing this fully anonymously and wanted to chat with you regarding a project that I’m building. Mind contacting me on the address in my profile?
Bnjoroge 7mo ago
thats like looking for a unicorn.

arrowleaf 7mo ago

Why? As a user of these tools, I love the convenience factor of having one tool rather than wrangling dozens. It's why in the past I've used an IDE (JetBrains), a language created by the provider of the IDE (Kotlin), web framework created by the same people (ktor), etc.

jFriedensreich 7mo ago
This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to fight for them to not get control of the other layers they are trying to grab. We are in a war, people who can still use claude code or other of their garbage tools, after anthropic threatened and shut off opencode, are very naive and ignorant.
- sillysaurusx 7mo ago
  From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war. In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed. If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit people. Start with me. My mind is open. Why should I join? Please tie your claims concretely to this new feature. I’m interested in how adding this could erode open source software. To me they seem completely independent, and it’s a welcome change.
  - darepublic 7mo ago
    I can't remove the YouTube app off my phone. The mobile phone is a locked up landscape that hates general purpose computing that puts the owner of the device in control. In the same way the big LLM want to give you stuff for free / subsidized then become very opinionated about how you use this stuff then pave up the entire landscape and monopolize it for themselves. Screw that.
  - jFriedensreich 7mo ago
    We are at a war of defending control over our tools from AI companies that try to takeover any adjacent technology and anything that can be turned into a platform with lock- in effect. Subsidising subscriptions and locking people into their cli is just the start. "A scheduled task runs a prompt on a recurring cadence using Anthropic-managed infrastructure." >> There is no other way to read this as in this context, its just a small feature, but its a land grab to run workflows locked into their cloud not just models, we don't fall for regimes in one go but one tiny piece at a time, like the frog in the water.

andai 7mo ago

>slight inconvenience You misspelt ">95% discount relative to API pricing" ;)

tossandthrow 7mo ago

I have tasks files in the code base that Claude executes on a schedule. I can easily move to other agents.